Paging Fordies...Tranny ECU

I have a 2001 2.O FWD TDI Transit. It's only putting out a miserable 75ps and since the van's always running around with a good load on I'm finding the power isn't really all that great.

Now, as far as I can make out from the Transit Forum and various other places, the 100ps version of the engine is exactly the same lump, pump, turbo, but with the addition of an intercooler and the necessary ECU tailored for that output.

I have a Cossie intercooler gathering dust - I've been meaning to fit it for the past three years and I've no doubt that'll help add a few bhp, but to complete the job I'll need a better/different ECU. The prices of Bluefin and the like are out of order and I'm wondering if a 100ps ECU will be a straight swap onto mine or will it need marrying up to the pump and the van's systems?

If so, how much of a hassle is it to do that?

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Grimly Curmudgeon
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A ECU swap will not work as the PATS system is built in and you would need the keys from the donor vehicle for it to work, as well as the dash re-aligning to work with it.

A custom Superchip mapping, or even a tuning box (or equivilent) would be the way to go. The tuningboxes which have a adjustment pot to tailor them slightly may well the best ones to go for.

Tim..

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Tim..

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Tim.." saying something like:

Ok, ta. That's what I need to know. What's involved in re-alignment?

Nah, the whole point is the ripoff prices being charged for this. F;d if I'm paying 500 quid to Superchip, although the Dragon adjustable one is cheaper at a mere 300. If I could get a standard one to work it'd be much cheaper.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

There's a bit more to it than that. Having just had a scan through the training manual, the 74kW version also has a watercooled EGR valve. But I'd also hazard a guess the turbos are different (higher boost pressure), and there's a few sensors in different places.

Fitting a different ECU involves reprograming it to match the pump (the PATS system is only in the pump and ECU on transits), but there is no guarantee that both ECUs are wired up the same.

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M Cuthill

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "M Cuthill" saying something like:

The buggers just have to f*ck about with things, don't they? I've been offered various tuning chips of the piggyback type that promise 90 to 100ps on the engine as it is at the moment - I take the

100 claim with a pinch of salt since that's the output of the intercooler-equipped engine.

As far as matching a 'foreign' ECU goes, how feasible is that? Dealer job only? I suppose it might be, since I understand the whole point of the PATS system is security and traceability to prevent theft and breaking for spares, and if anyone could do it, then van thieves would be able to.

It seemed to be feasible at first... ho hum.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

They probably could push 100ps out the engine as is, but I doubt it would do much for engine longetivity.

Matching an ECU can be done by anybody with access to suitable diagnostic kit, and able to get ford security access codes (it's a rolling code system, that requires a new access codeeach time you need security access). However, you may find that it is possible to reprogramme the current ECU to the higher power. The only problem is finding someone with the knowledge of how to fool the diagnostic kit into doing such things ;-) Next time I've got some spare time at work, I may have a poke around the Transit wiring diagrams to see if there's any obvious differences.

moray

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M Cuthill

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "M Cuthill" saying something like:

Interesting, thanks. So it's feasible after all? I'll have to spread some goodwill at the local Ford dealer. :)

Lovely, thanks. Mine's the TDI, not the TDCI, btw.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

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