value?

You asked:

'A pist 'No, it isn't.'

How on earth is that an irrelevant answer?

Chris

Because that isn't the original question that I asked. Try reading the thread properly.

Tim

It's not that difficult to remove the plugs on even a car with COP. Suck out any water from the cylinders with a small hose etc (a cheap oil changing pump even better), inject some oil and spin over with the starter

- plugs still out.

If DIY, costs zero to try.

The question being answered "A piston whacking a valve isn't the same scenario though, is it?"

If there was an original unanswered question, then perhaps it's best not to ask another.

I wrote:

A bad idea for sure without removing the plugs but would a starter  motor have enough power to do more damage?

Tim

You replied:

#I seen 8 valves bent by a starter turning on an engine with a misplaced  timing belt.#

Can you not see how that doesn't answer my question?

As to not asking another question, why in the hell not when it's relevant to the thread and the OPs actions?

Tim

I imagine it would depend on the state of the engine when the starter kicked in - if it picked up some momentum before locking then it might bend a rod, but if the hydro-lock was pretty much instantaneous then I doubt it. And if the water-full cylinder was on the exhaust stroke then no harm done.

FFS give it a rest. No-one cares.

I'm current evaluating how I use my computer, and for what purposes. In the new year, I think sadly it might be time to jump the sinking HMS Usenet.

Chris

Well it might be if I could see the plugs, looks like the are round the back beneath the air filter hose and a load of other gubbins. And it's freezing cold and raining. I might take a look in a few days.

I do. It was a reasonable question. If you don't know the answer what was the point of your reply?

More signal, less noise would be nice.

Tim

I buy insurance to cover losses I could not afford, so Comprehensive, protected NCB, 500 excess (I always opt for maximum excess). If the car is junk then the depreciation comes out at 500pa. I can afford that.

Maximum excess does not always give the lowest premium.

Since your NCB is protected, the insurance payout for you to buy a similar car from a dealer may be worth taking, even with the large excess.

Facebook's no better.

Oh, indeed.

Why on earth would anyone actually buy any of those - unless living on a farm?

Just don't drive through water without knowing how deep it is, no matter what you drive.

None of the above will keep going under water either.

A Rav 4, or soft-roaders in general?

Chris

From some perspectives, several orders of magnitude worse.

Closed FB groups can be OK, especially if you are a mod. ;-)

Chris

Bah! Those are all toys. Go the whole hog and be prepared.

AFAIAC, the only ways in which FB is better than Usenet is the ability to post photos and the fact that "everyone" is there. In all other respects it sucks donkey dick down a 20ft garden hose. Even with the amount of ad blocking I use.

I have very mixed views about moderation. (Depending on whether I've looked at uk.radio.amateur lately!) Most mods need to wind their necks in.