Ok, so you've found the car of your dreams, its got all the gadgets that you want, looks good and is going for the right sort of money.
The only problem is, the previous owner has welded the bonnet shut, so the only access to the engine is from underneath, and for any major work, such as a head gasket, you would need to drop the front axle off and take the engine out from underneath.
Would you buy the car?
nope as you wouldnt get an mot on it !!!
"SimonJ"wrote
If everything else was as I wanted, then yes...without hesitation.
Then I'd cut the bonnet off, and attach it (or a replacement) properly...
HTH ;o)
Are you serious? Why would somebody do that?
Si
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Do you get Daisy Duke with it?
And a case of moonshine.
No, obviously hiding something... (and you wouldnt get an MOT pass either)
Tim..
SimonJ ( snipped-for-privacy@mine.net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
And to check/top up the oil/washer bottle/etc?
C'mon, there's a bit more to this, isn't there? What is it? And how "right sort of money" is the "right sort of money"...
Where is the VIN plate?
With that car they probably look like these...
This wouldn't be a Merc A160? Never did find my way into the bonnet during a week's hire.
In news:-YudnQ snipped-for-privacy@bt.com, SimonJ wittered on forthwith;
No.
Well, not unless it was *really* cheap, like £50 cheap.
"Pete M" wrote in message news:gI7Ug.27919
Sounds like a banger racer, they usually have the bonnet welded shut.
PDH
Yip, stock cars. Engine will have been thrashed to within an ounce of its life and the owner will have got it cheap anyway if he was just using it to stock car race. It will be trash.
I think I know where this dude is going to go with this.......
I think he is going to ask why we all buy 7.5ton and above horseboxes which due to having a fixed luton to the main body it doesn't allow the cab to tilt, am I right ?
When making a horsebox it is a nightmare to have both a luton(The area you sleep in or store stuff in) and a tilting cab. The big problem is because the Cab has to tilt it would mean you would have to fix the Tuton to the cab and then make it seal so to be water tight against the body of the horsebox. It can be done but the materials that would seal it are notorious to work properly and in most cases perish.
Ok Im guessing this is the point the dude is going to make but my responce to this would be that due to the very light work load of most horseboxes it isnt such a issue to most people. Yes we shouldnt be driving a lorry that we cant tilt the cab to gain access to the engine but to be honest if a problem develops then it is in most cases something that the garage can deal with. And because most horsesboxes are only driven a couple of times a month problems developing within the engine you would hope would be a very occasionable issue.
I may have just written a essay about something completly irrelivent because the guy thought this was a different group , we will see lol.
Is there a particular reason why this is being crossposted to uk.rec.equestrian?
All will become clear........
"LloydJ" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
TING!! Well done that man!
That is exactly the point I was going to make, when I wrote the OP I had just come back from attempting to repair a horsebox on the hard shoulder of the M6, without a tilting cab. I still find it amazing that people will buy a truck that you cannot access the engine of, when no one would ever consider a car in similar condition. It is quite possible to make a luton work with a tilt cab(just look at any furniture wagon), the problem is that most horsebox makers are too lazy to do it properly, and most of the buyers of horseboxes are unfamiliar with trucks so don't realize the problem until after they have bought the box.
As for your point that horseboxes are only used occasionally, this adds to the problem, it doesn't help it. Things like throttle linkages seizing through lack of use for example.Also horseboxes tend to be built on older, high mileage chassis, which need more frequent maintenance, not less.
Also you may say that most problems can be coped with at the garage, but that does not help you much when you are stuck on the hard shoulder.
Imagine the scenario, a fuel line has broken on the engine, very easy repair, which could normally be completed in a few minutes, at least to the extent that you could get home or to a garage. You've been sat on the hard shoulder for 40 minutes waiting for the repair van to come out (me!) Because the engine cannot be accessed, the repair cannot be done, Dobbin is getting frustrated in the back of the box, and is starting to try and kick his way out. With a tilt cab, you would be on your way, away from the hard shoulder and all the associated hazards. BUT, you don't have a tilt cab, and I now have to go back to the garage for the recovery truck. You're going to be sat there for at least another hour, maybe a little longer, and Dobbin isn't going to be getting any happier in that time. Ok, so I then I turn up with the recovery truck, you may think your problems are over, but they are about to get twice as bad. You cant start unloading a horse on the side of the motorway, he's getting pretty mad back there, and you are trying you're best to try to keep him calm. To do the recovery I am going to have to pick the front axle of the box off the floor, how much is he going to like travelling like that? Not only that, but you wont be able to stay in the horsebox with him, you'll be riding up front in the cab of the recovery truck, where you wont be able to hear or see what is happening in the back of the horsebox.
Does that nice luton body, with the sealed down cab seem such a good idea now? Unfortunately the situation above is something which I see several times a week, and it is extremely frustrating to see people in such a distressing situation, knowing that it could have all have been so easily avoided.
seems clear to me....its about horse boxes. very relevant to here i think. especially as we've had at least 3 people posting about boxes in recent months! asking for recomendations.
Matzi
"Matzi" wrote
indeed it is clear now...but it wasn't 2 days ago...
And I would have no problem buying the original car if everything else was ok for the reasons I've already given...
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