Well, on my S-Class the self closing doors had a leak in the hydraulic
system. It was fixed under warranty, but would have cost $2500 for the
luxury of not closing my own doors.
There have been troubles with some of the air conditioning systems, which
are automatic in two zones, and front and back. Pretty much overkill, hence
I don't have the air suspension, and I can't imagine how the air suspension
could be any smoother than my S.
I think he's referring to those kinds of things.
Basically, anything that is not required for the car to operate
(mechanically) as designed.
Fortunately, the trouble laden items are optional, although you may have
order your car direct from the factory.
Yes, but US market Mercedes are completely different beasts with relation to
standard and optional equipment. In Europe you can get them relatively
stripped of equipment, but in the Base US market Mercedes are considered
Premium Optioned cars, leaving only things as Parktronic, Distronic, and
climate controlled seats, etc. as electronic options.
I guess my point was the US market Mercedes already comes equipped with so much
equipment standard and you cant get any of it deleted (except maybe the
sunroof) adding a few more electronic items isn't gonna make a big difference
in overall reliability numbers.
The options on the US market cars, such as Command, Distronic and
parktronic are the items I am referring to.
Mundane items such as headlight washers and heated seats are not likely to
present a drivability problem.
My '71 250 has crank windows and manual door locks. It's pretty much as
simple and reliable as a car gets.
Correctomundo. My 02 Ford Explorer does anything I would want in an SUV.
I actually don't NEED any other car with an S420 and a Ford Explorer.
What I'd LIKE is to emulate the quality and impression value of my
passenger vehicle, and have my 4 wheel drive in my passenger vehicle. Then
I'd get rid of the Explorer, consolidate insurance coverage, and so on. I
don't think the Subaru will work, as I want to use this for my "dress up"
work car, although I think Subaru has proven itself better than anyone in
the all wheel drive passenger vehicle department over the years, and you do
get the most bang for the buck.
I think I'm down to the A-6 with the 4.2 liter engine, the Mercedes E 500 4
Matic as choices. The Audi appears to be wider, and seems to have more
rear seat room, and a longer history in all wheel drive. Neither seem
bulletproof in reliability, but I don't like the SUV platform, and I'm not
seeing a sedan from the Japanese in a four wheel drive format, unless I
If I don't go with 4 wheel drive, then I can just keep my 99 S420. It does
everything else I want. Although I do worry about reliability on my S Class
as well, particularly since it is out of warranty.
In doing a side by side comparison, it appeared that the body is actually
bigger, with more room inside, and a larger gas tank (petrol) on the 4.2,
and that there were a few other items standard on the 4.2 that didn't come
on the 2.7 T. No other reason, really. I like the 2.7T as well. Although
I've tended to own V-8s over the years so I'm more familiar with driving a
vehicle without turbo lag lifting out of the gas into corners, and dropping
the hammer coming out. I would imagine that this has changed since the
last time I owned a turbo charged vehicle. Any strong reasons for one
over the other?
I think the 2.7 T was less expensive to purchase.
The 4.2 is wider, but it's only because the wheel arches are more
flared. The passenger compartment is exactly the same size - no more
Taking the difference in consumption into account, there is not that
much difference in range between the two version.
The 2.7T has a little less weight hanging out over the front axle and,
therefore, has a better turn in. This is compensated for, to some
extent, by the wider tyre on the 4.2. The S6 and RS6 are better in this
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
Not really, just drive both and see which one you like. After reading some
owners reviews on www.carpoint.com it seems like people were disappointed
with the 4.2 performance, whereas the 2.7 owners ranted and raved. But as
you said, it all comes down to the buyer and what they prefer.
I was. I sat in the CTS at the auto show (didn't drive it) and didn't like
the look as much as I was expecting. I also decided that if I was going to
change cars, that I want to combine my SUV and daily driver into one car, so
I'm looking at doing this by getting an AWD vehicle that can also act as a
dress up car for taking clients out. I still think the CTS-V is going to
be a terrific car.
If you want *dead bang reliability* in an AWD car and it's not too small or
'beneath' you, I'd take a long look at the Subaru Legacy sedans (or wagons,
if you don't mind a bit of boxy luggage room.). Strikes me as the Audi 4000
Quattro for the New Millennium. Another poster suggested that the smaller
Impreza might be roomy enough for 6-footers. The Legacy is even bigger.
(and I'm a Bavarian car guy ...)
The owner of an independent garage was so impressed with my Audi 90 quattro
after working on it (145,000 miles - original clutch, exhaust etc), he went
out and a brand new Audi A4.
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