A friend of mine wants to buy a Mercedes sedan but it's worried about
the reliability declining of some European cars, like MB, Jag etc.
For that reason he may purchase a used MB and would like to know the
year when the decline started.
It may be hard for most users of this group to admit the fact that a
Lexus is more reliable that a MB but is apparently a statistically
May be MBs are as reliable as before. Only the Jap are that much
Thanks for your time
The decline in reliability began when the 124 series ended:1995 E Class.
Mercedes was determined to put more and more technology into their car which
relied on computer modules. MB traditionally went with Bosch and Hella
electronics. These firms had problems with their "Chips". Daimler refused to
put reliable, Japanese chips in their German car. They decided to switch to
Alpine audio when they were bombarded by letters from dealers and customers
who emphasized that the developed nations of the world listened to music
from Compact Disc for over twenty years. They finally went through their
inventory of Becker tape/radios and made the switch.
Daimler, BMW, and Volkwagen AG have turned the corner and all claim that
their cars are reliable again. The bottom line is, would you rather be in a
Mercedes-Benz in an accident or a Japanese car? P.
This is exactly what I was looking for.
I have another friend that purchased a 745(?) BMW about a year ago
for circa 100k and had lots of problems. Always with electronics.
Problems that the dealer wasn't capable of fixing.
When Jurgen Schrempp (AKA Jerkin' Shrimp) took the helm of chairman of
Daimler back in 1995, engineering development budgets and schedules were
cut way back to get new products on the road quickly and reduce
engineering costs. M-B used to take 6 to 7 years to bring a new vehicle
to fruition. Now it's much closer to the industry norm of 3 years or so.
Engineering processes did not keep pace with the new schedules and
budgets. The result is poorly tested and half baked products. But old
Jerkin' Shrimp has made a lot more money so it's OK. He observed
American management styles and correctly reasoned that he could devalue
the his products, coast on the Mercedes reputation for years before all
but the moneyed clueless noticed, and line his pockets better than any
other German corporate leader. Now that is corporate leadership!
In the USA many M-B dealers have greatly expanded their service
facilities. They probably knew it would be needed. I wonder if Daimler
funded any of this?
Look at JD Powers recent USA data on the M-B vehicles. On average
Chrysler products have a better quality level than M-Bs. Save yourself a
bunch of money and get the Chrysler 300 instead. If it's any comfort it
has a lot of last generation E-class parts underneath and you can always
scrounge a 3 pointed star if your friend is particularly insecure in the
suburban vehicular pecking order.
In short, in the old days the E suffix meant that an injection engine was
installed. At some stage all engines were injection, so the need for the E
suffix fell away. By then the model range had become bigger (intro of 190
and its successor, the C-Class) and so the letters were put in front and
used as 'Class' designations. There always was an S-Class but I suspect
that "excecutive" for E is a post-fact rationalisation.
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