Safest car?

You are hysterical!!!

And right on the money as well :)

psycho

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psycho pastrami
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Over here in Germany, japanese cars are known for their high prices for spare parts. This may not bother Toyota owners, as their cars seem to hardly ever need spare parts, but other japanese brands can be awfully expensive to maintain. On the contrary, Mercedes parts and labor are not at all overpriced. BMW is expensive, yes.

Frank

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Frank Kemper

Yes, but how's your neck feeling these days? ;-)

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Michael Hobbs

I hear ya!!

It was like being on a miserable rollercoaster ride, but I had a belt on and the head restraint was up, thank goodness because I am 6'1" !!!

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psycho pastrami

But it could be called Toyota LS 400 or Camry LS 400 and have a Toyota badge on the grille...

IIRC these brands were specifically introduced in the west a couple of decades ago or so precisely to persuade us that we were getting real equivalent alternatives to Merc et al. Hence hiding of Mother's name and separate dealerships, at least in Europe. Of course you could hide the Toyota name from the Lexus only for so long.

What about Honda's policy? According to the website, in the US the NSX is labelled Acura, where here in Europe is a Honda NSX. The Acura brand doesn't exist.

DAS

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Dori Schmetterling

Are you saying that, e.g., Mazda and Suzuki parts cost more than Toyota parts? I find that hard to believe.

DAS

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Joe Liu

Why don't someone who has the time or convenience price out some comparable parts for a 12 year old Lexus and a 12 year old Mercedes ? For example, starters, headlights, antena motors, evaporaters, belt sets, gaskets, shocks, etc.

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Joe Liu

There must be something about rear end collisions. Recently someone drove my S500 into a Nissan Maxima. By the time it hit it was already pretty slow (he tried to stop but didn't stop in time). My 98 S500 had more than $9000 of damage, while the Maxima had NO obvious damage at all. (The people in the S500 only felt small jerk, no injuries or nothing, the driver in the Maxima was jolted more).

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Joe Liu

You may have owned more Mercedes and Japanese cars than I have. But I very much doubt you have driven more miles than I have in the past 25+ years. I have a total of over 750,000 miles on my Mercedes. Another 375,000 miles on Japanese cars. When I talk about parts prices, I'm referring to mechanical parts prices and not important things like cup holders. But you really have no idea the actual cost of those parts used to repair your S500. You never actually priced the parts because you were simply given an estimate from a repair shop which likely used dealer list prices. I'm talking about things like suspension parts, brake rotors, brake calipers, brake boosters, engine mechanical parts such as valves, pistons, cylinder heads, belts, hoses, electrical parts, etc. It will be expensive if you are simply going to your local Mercedes dealer and having work done. However, often there are other sources for the same parts and the dealer probably isn't the best place to have your repairs done.

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VCopelan

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4 stars driver, 2 stars passenger. Rather disappointing..

Of course, the NHTSA crash tests are the equivalent of a collision with a vehicle of similar weight, so realistically that's not bad, but still..

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Robert Hancock

Could be, but I know my Caprice has an I-Beam bumper on shock absorbers.

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psycho pastrami

Usually the car approaching from the rear is doing a "panic" stop and the front end dives under the rear of the car ahead.. Lots of damage to the front of the offending car. Little (other than bumper damage) to the car ahead.

Howard

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hnelson

VCoplan, you hit the nail right on the head. When I first got my BMW

635CSi I was prepared to pay a pretty penny for the service on it, however when I got my first repair bill I had to look twice. Five hundred bucks, I had a complete tune-up done, valves adjusted, AC recharged, new belts and hoses, ABS sensor rings replaced in the back, and a few other things. Point in case, a lot of work for very cheap! Before my BMW and Porsche, I had a money pit Supra. Let me just go over some of the repairs during my first year of ownership. Blown Head Gasket ($1500), new blower motor ($500), new power steering rack ($800), new exhaust system ($450) and a starter ($250). Yeah and that doesn't include all the little stuff that didn't work like the AC, climate control, various electronics, cruise control, the torn leather seats, the misc. plastic pieces that fell apart or broke in the interior. Now, that car was a 1988, and since selling it, I have a 86 Porsche 944 and a 85 635CSi. Despite being older cars, they are flawless and everything works. No rust, no torn leather, no electrical gremlins and bugs, and they still attract attention and turn heads. To me this is a mark of quality, the fact that these cars have changed little from their showroom condition over a period of 20 years, where as my Supra literally fell apart in my hands. These J.D and Consumer reports surveys may not put German cars high on the charts, but I can promise you that a German car will out last the competition every time during the ultimate test....the test of time.

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Hollywood Harry

Then explain why minivans and large 4-door cars, which weigh less than large SUVs, have lower own-driver death rates and lower overall death rates than large SUVs. Also, midsize 4-door cars, which weigh less than midsize 4-door SUVs, have a lower own-driver death rate and a lower overall death rate than midsize 4-door SUVs.

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Timothy J. Lee

In a rear end crash, the rear car usually takes more damage, since the nose diving due to panic braking causes the grill of the rear car to hit the bumper of the front car.

Did she have the seat belts on and the head restraint properly adjusted?

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Timothy J. Lee

Gotta love that image. Lol(for real).

"Oh - did something just hit me?"

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Joseph Oberlander

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No, i was talking about japanese parts in general. Mazda and Toyota have the highest reputation for being bulletproof, so they may not need any spare parts, at which price whatsoever ;-). The cheapest spare parts are those you are not required to buy...

Frank

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Frank Kemper

True!

DAS

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Dori Schmetterling

The safest car is the one that stays parked in the drive. ;)

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Tj

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