Pics of the new 'ride'

Nov 13, 2005 30 Replies

Lets say it this way: leaving straightline speed out of the equation the Elise Mk1 eats *anything* non-Lotus and that with "only" 120 HP. Driver skill is important but even a lesser -or less dedicated- driver will show most street supercars a clean backside if that's what was wanted.

I have witnessed first hand some very clever guys in a (streetdriven) Porsche

911 bi-turbo overtake the little Elise after Raidillion at Spa, becoming annoyed because they were chased through the following corners and finally overtaking just before Blanchimont.

They past it again during Blanchimont (a full throttle easy double left) but the Elise was on their tail at the busstop, first out of it and first at the Source. In a street car Eau Rouge is tricky because it closes and you go uphill to the Raiddillion again. Of course they got the Lotus back at the straight but

3 laps were suffisscient to boil their brakes or tires and a very nice Porsche got destroyed that day.

That trackday proved there were capable streetcars, Lotus cars (Elise, Exige and that very fast one with the strange bodywork) and competition cars. Do not race and leave the ego in the closet during trackdays.

The Lotus cars mixed in lap times, all out speed and braking with the purpose build competition cars. The one with the strange bodywork was imho even better than most race cars.

A 190 HP Elise or the Exige will go better / faster than its 120 HP-version, no doubt about. But on normal roads you are very far in license ban area when you use the extra HP, not to mention being a mortal danger to yourself. I would positively hate going of the road in Elise with trees in the vincinity.

Did I say I like the Elise Mk1? No? Well: I do. It's very near to perfection.

120 HP is the right mixture between something that still is a hoot to drive and staying reliable. It fits the bill perfectly for a 680 kg car.

Tom De Moor

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You've never driven one - it's very 'very' obvious.

Whats with the Special D .sig?!

(German 'techno' is top though :-)

i've driven a 122bhp MK1 MR2 so i know fun when i see it, but the elise and MK1 MR2 don't give a nice cruise on the way home from work do they. if i can ever find a way to afford it i'd like something nice for the trek to and from work and an old MR2 MK1 in the garage for the weekend as i'm yet to find a car as fun and as cheap!

Erm, i've never driven either, but surely, there is quite a world of difference between an Elise and a Jap car in the handling stakes...?

Not a world, a universe, maybe more than one.

There is the differance in weight, there is suspension and tires working like they should, there is the stiffness of the chassis and the sensivity of the steering, brakes without power assistance. Out of the box is the Elise unbeatable. It has a radio which never fails (there isn't one)

I was on a trackday about 8 years ago where Lotus promoted the Elise, Renault was there also with some Spiders (the new ones with windscreens because nobody in his right mind would buy one without). Never seen the Renault people that embarrased: their Spider was ridiculised bij the Elise.

People ceuing at Lotus, nobody at Renault. Non-professional drivers in the Elise outracing (stricly forbidden but hey : what did they expect ?) professional drivers in the Spider. The pro's didn't like that at all.

Enormous waiting lists for an Elise (up to 3 years), Renault had the Spiders "en masse" at Dieppe but nobody wanted them (finally Renault "sponsored" some French driving schools, read: gave the Spiders for free)

Just how good the Elise really is, was found out some years later: when Opel launched their Speedster. Altough based on the same platform, also Lotus- engineered, the Speedster weighed about 100 -150 kg more and gone was the magic. Doesn't sell either, even now with a turbo.

Not everybody is happy with the "new" Elise, it has indeed also gained weight but got better and more powerfull engines. Price has almost tripled, it hasn't become 3 times better. The Exige is still better (I like roofed cars) but you must rob a bank (or several).

Accident-free MK1 Elises still fetch their original price or more around here which imho is not bad for a car from 1997... well not bad: quite unique actually.

Must stop about the Elise, I am giving those expensif buggers at Lotus to much free publicity.

Tom De Moor

well yes but drive the MR2 MK1 and i doubt very much you'll find something as cheap and as fun to drive! an elise will cost you a few quid more :)

hmm forgot about the elise and VX220 connection, now there's good use of a staff discount!

and yet a VX220 or a Turbo is probably the better choice for a road car, if only for the more flexible engine, ABS, airbag and lower insurance. Always seemed easier for fat sods like me to get in and out of too.

At ten tenths the Elise rocks, for day to day road and trackday though the VX is as good.

I can't comment on insurance questions: that is specific to the UK.

As to the every day use of such a car: I know no-one who uses that kind of car as their everyday transport.

Has something changed in the UK since my last visit? I distincly remember low clouds, cold, rain and in the London area a lot of crowded roads... not exactly dedicated Elise territory.

Anyway: the Opel Speedster / VX doesn't sell around here.

Went in a dealership on saturday -we need an extra company car- and a black Speedster was stationed near the front door. On my question why it was there the sales person answered:" We have it because we are obliged to. We sell Corsa, Astra and things like that. Bet you are not here for a Speedster."

He was right: went home with the prices of Corsa 1.3 and Astra 1.3 Turbo Diesels :-)

Tom De Moor

I drove one and loved it but I would never think about owning one. Totally impractical. It's hard to even call it a road car. It's a race go-kart with extra bodywork and registration plates. Getting in and out of the thing is like some wierd form of Yoga.

Fraser

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