Re: Alternators (long-ish, it turns out)

Anyway, all sorted now, but my questions are - what exactly wears out on > alternators?

Not much - it's usually an electronics failure that kills them. In my experience most likely the regulator followed by the diode pack. I've never actually seen one with worn out brushes or failed bearings - although of course this must happen. Nor have I ever seen one with burnt out windings.

Is it just a simple case of the brushes, or is there more > to it?

The problem is testing the electronics - you can check most diode packs fairly easily, but the only simple way to test the reg is by substitution. And it can be very difficult to find spares.

This one, AFAIK, is the original, and the van's done a shade > under 180k - is mileage a good indicator of how long they last, or is it > more to do with total engine hours, or just total physical revolutions? > And does lots of stop-start driving accelerate the wear on alternator > brushes (or whatever else it is that wears out), or not particularly? > And how long can I realistically expect this one to last (do about 30k a > year, stopping and starting on average about 65-70 times/day)? Would it > have been a waste to go for the Merc-badged Bosch one that came with an > extra year of warranty, or as I thought, would that have just been > wasted money?

Personally I'd have looked for a good name re-con. Although if it's an unusual type this could also be difficult. Most decent motor factors or accessory shops can supply to order. They tend to be about 1/3rd of new Bosch prices.

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Dave Plowman (News)
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Usually brushes. Last pair I did on a Toyota was at about 90K miles in late 1990's. Just used some generic ones, 50p each, right section but too long so I had to file them down a bit and drill a small hole for the nail that held them in fully retracted position for re-fitting of end cover. Alternators used to need brushes at about 80K miles. Slip rings they run on would often need a skim to recon too. Often the voltage/current spikes caused by poor contact will take out the electronic regulator too.

Modern alternators last a lot longer as they super finish the slip rings so the brushes don't wear down as fast. I've done 173K on one. The electronics have better current detection and current limiting so protect themselves much better.

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Peter Hill

Ah right - still sounds like getting a 150-quid Lucas jobbie from Eurocarparts was the least hassle option, then...

D'oh - maybe should have phoned around a bit more - did phone one factors but they didn't have anything on their system for my specific model and wanted to know loads of numbers off the alternator to cross-reference it, and I wasn't anywhere near the van at the time and couldn't be arsed with pissing about, so got the Lucas one from Eurocarparts - £150+vat (plus surcharge which I'll get back once I drop the old one back in...)

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AstraVanMann

That's probably not a bad price considering the lack of messing about to get it.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Alternators also used to be taken out by people spraying cans of WD40 all over the engine in the belief it would displace water. It does, but it also eats the varnish on the windings in the alternator and perishes rubber. Terrible stuff, but provided regular income for garages.

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Ian

I can see it - being oil based - attacking real rubber, but enamel? If it did it would likely go for the paint too. However getting that sort of gunge on the slip rings isn't going to do any good.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Yea I'm sure a squirt of WD made them a fortune. Dickhead.

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DanB

"AstraVanMann" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

A petrol Sprinter... Wow. Don't think I've seen many of those about...

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Adrian

Pete's is definately fuelled properly, and he's got LPG as well :-)

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Pete M

Indeedy it is. And I take great pleasure in pissing on Adrian's great fire of sarcasm :-)

Being a weeny 4-pot petrol, the spread of torque isn't as nice as a decent commonrail diesel, but it's countered by the fact that I can happily run it to 250-300k++ without any worry of any expensive things like injectors clogged with diesel soot, knackered commonrail injection pumps, or turbos, breaking and making it barely worth repairing.

However, and as good as the 2.5TDI VW LT vans are, jumping back into my Sprinter from the LT (109bhp 5-pot jobbie) hire van I had, it did feel like a sumptiously smooth, quiet and powerful autobahnstormer in comparison. And the power steering felt infinitely lighter as well.

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AstraVanMann

Heh. I hired an LT35. It felt horrendously commerical to me. Reminded me of being in our old 7.5 tonner.

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Doki

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