Ever been up against a dodge R/T?

I frequent the Dodge Dakota forums as well as the Mustangs forums (Mustangs will always be my favorite). I keep reading about these guys driving dodge Dakotas and RAM trucks who are "constantly" beating mustangs in races (on the track and off). Some of these guys have decent work done to the truck so I can see them possibly beating a stock Mustang. Most of these guys say they slapped on a K&N and then beat the stangs. I drive my Dakota and I've driven several 5.0s, my Dakota will never beat a maintained V8 mustang.

These guys are saying that they basically beat any mustang on the street (I imagine they are talking the newer 85 and up models).

Has anyone here been up against these guys? How it go? Has anyone seen a Dodge wil a 4.7L, 5.2L 5.9L, or Hemi race a mustang?

I'm just curious,I think these guys are 99.9% full of feces and that the friend of a friend that they all know is one guy with a seriously modified engine (They all seem to claim low 11's high 10's at the track). I wish my truck could do that...funny I have basically the same mods as most of them and I'm nowhere near a 12-13s 1/4 mile.

Kirk

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Mulatz
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The Dodge SRT runs 5.0 seconds for 0-60 and under 14 secs for the quarter.

Dodge Ram Sport with the 5.7 liter Hemi runs 9.7 0-60

Ram Heavy Duty with the 5.9 Liter 8.6 0-60

Dodge Dakota R/T 5.9 Liter 7.0 0-60

So in answer to your question, only the 2004 Dodge SRT could outrun a Mustang GT (both being Stock.) And to be really nice: possibly the Dakota R/T driver being excellent, and the GT owner being horrible a Dakota with the 5.9 could beat a GT with little to no mods.

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wrestleantares

That is what I thought. These guys are claiming to be killing every mustang on the street with a 5.2L and/or 4.7L Dakotas as well. Plus they claim the mustang drivers were ready good (how they would know how good a total stranger is at driving is beyond me). They are claiming low 13s with K&N filters and cat back exhaust mods. Few of these claims come from R/T drivers but they are there. I don't think they really know what they were up against....I'm beginning to think that there are alot of'badged 5.0's' that aren't the real thing. I don't think that they could all be lying about beating mustangs so there must be some explaination.

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Mulatz

I did race a 5.9L. No contest, he was easy to beat, and he was a neighbour. :) I don't think Chrysler tuned those hulks for speed. In fact, they make me sick. Chrysler should put the 5.9 into a 2 door CAR, and no, I don't mean a freakish hatch-back, stationwagon, 4x4, whatever that prototype was.

-Rich

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rander3127

My buddy's brother has a RT. It has, a throttle body, off-road exhaust, and a CAI. It sounds fast, but its not. They should not be beating any reasonably maintained mustang.

--Mike K.

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Mike

You could probably get a better launch with a little well-placed weight in the back and ease off on the tire pressure. I'm not sure if the R/T's have a tendency to hop on launch being pick up trucks or not.

That would be the easiest mod.

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wrestleantares

According to edmunds the 5.9L V8 is rated at 250hp and the truck weighs

3940Lbs with it. While it has a larger engine is 10hp short of the current GTs and weighs a heafty 600 lbs more. Shear embarrassment if you get beat by this thing. A more even match for it would be a late model V6 5sp stang with basic modes.

The 4.7L Dakota is rated 235hp and does only 0-60 in 8.8 seconds in the quad cab and probably no better than 8.0 in the smaller versions. A 190 hp V6 with 5sp (0-60 in around 7.5) should be able to take 'em.

At faster speeds, the trucks shape becomes a liability due to wind resistance.

Those Dakotas make for a nice midsize, mid-priced truck if you want a fast truck with a V8. Beat a V8 stang? Nope! John

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jriegle

Not the R/T as I stated above. But the GT is still a match for it. The R/T Dakota has the 5.9 liter and does 0-60 in about 7 flat.

Now the 2004 SRT Ram is another story, but it has 500 Horses pumped out of a modified Viper v-10. Still, while it could take a Stock GT (barely) at a 0-60 in 5.0, a Cobra is a match for it.

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wrestleantares

"Mulatz" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com:

My R/T is an awesome truck, but there's no way it'll beat a Mustang GT. The R/Ts run mid-to-low 15s out of the box (depending on the driver, track conditions, etc.) with an automatic. Manual isn't available.

The 5.9 is rated at 250 hp, 345 lb. ft. torque. Out of the box, it's a torquemonster that'll spin the rears with a blip of the throttle, but it's real short on breath. From the factory, the 360 is pretty choked up for emissions purposes. If you open up the intake/exhaust, you're just about into Mustang GT territory. The R/Ts are all automatics, too.

The real trick to these trucks is a blower. Vortech or KB trucks run

13s easily. With other mods (heads, intake, exhaust, etc.) you can get down into the 12s.

Although you'll never see it from the factory, the killer setup would be a Hemi in an R/T. That truck with a 345 hp Hemi would kill any stock Mustang GT and a lot of modded GTs. BTW, a real doable setup is the Ram 1500 Hemi regular cab with a Kenne Bell. Around $25k-$27k plus the cost of the blower. Look out.

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

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Joe

I have heard some high 14s out of the stripper Hemi reg cab Rams. Also a few high 15s. With a blower these would be interesting. With all the incentives, you can get a stripper Hemi reg cab for about $17K. Add a blower and thats one heck of a deal. Still, it s a heavy ass pick up.

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Kirby

Kirby wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@boeing.com:

They've got to be stripped down to the bone. A stock 1500 just might see 14.999, but not realistically. I don't think the 1500s come with sticks, either - they're all automatics. To get a stick, you have to go up to the 2500.

I'll bet Hemi 1500s do mid 15s or so. Probably right in the same ballpark as my 5.9 R/T.

No way. Maybe without seats, wheels, tires...

Sure, they're heavy. They've got full truck frames. To me, that's a good thing. A truck with a unibody frame would be worthless.

The original question was if anybody ever went up against an R/T. Before I had my first one (I'm on my 2nd - the 1st got totaled out), I went up against an '01 R/T a few years ago in my LX and I whupped him good. My LX does mid 14s, the R/T ran somewhere in the low-to-mid

15s. Got the timeslip stashed somewhere...

No more than any "car" people. With any vehicle class you'll see a certain percentage of morons who "rice up" their ride.

And you never heard this from car drivers? Hell, I've heard it from Mustang drivers.

Right. You'll never see it happen. If DC put the Hemi in the present-day Dak, nobody would buy Hemi 1500s. Now, you _will_ see a supercharged Hemi show up sooner or later. The new Durango will have the Hemi, but it's a good bit larger than the current style.

They're in both a performance class and price class of their own.

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

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Joe

I agree. I am just going off what I have read on another board. Heard a guy claim 14.7. Not sure how fast. Really, not sure if its true. I have read others claim everything up to high 15s. So, yeah mid 15s would be about right.

I promise! I looked. Saw them advertised for 16,990 this summer. Okay, so thats really $17K. Anyway, I think they have taken away some of the rebates now. That was at Randall Noe in Terrell, Texas.

Yeah, its great for a truck. Still, lighter weight cars make better drag racers!

Sorry if my reading comprehension skills were a little off last night! ;) Yes, I have. Lost in my old 97 V-6 F150. :)

Okay, yes I have. Still, I see it a lot more of this on truck boards. Mustang people for the most part seem a little more informed. More true "gearheads" I guess?

And two that are priced out of my class! ;)

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Kirby

Joe said (a few posts ago):

Holy crap Joe! I kind of dropped out of RAMFM for a year or two, I had no idea the 1st truck got totalled out. You are the most targeted driver on the road ;) Glad to see your here to tell of it though.

The Crotch Viper '95 GT

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CrotchViper

I've beaten quite a few Dakota R/T's around here. They aren't much of a challenge. They are full of crap (the ppl saying this).

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memsetpc

snipped-for-privacy@aol.commando (CrotchViper) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m04.aol.com:

Thanks, Sam. Yeah, that accident was a doozy. I was at a stand still in the exit lane coming off I-75 in a line of cars (I was the last vehicle in line), and in my rear view I happened to notice this old Toyota Camry barreling down the exit lane towards me not slowing down at all. About a second later he rear-ends me doing about 55mph. Turned out he was a diabetic and he passed out behind the wheel from insulin problems. His Camry sort of went underneath the truck a bit, but he hit me hard enough to bend the frame. The bed was pushed into the rear of the cab so the back window popped out, and the passenger door wouldn't open (he hit me a bit towards the passenger side). The entire front of the Camry was gone. The engine was pushed down under the windshield; you couldn't tell what kind of car it was from looking at the front.

To make a long story short, the insurance company totaled it out (less than a year old) and I ended up getting an '02. So far so good... ;)

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

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Joe

Bummer Joe.. when I was a young kid & my sister was driving the older Mustang (early 90's) LX convertible a diabetic passed out behind the wheel and smacked into the side of us. totalled the car :(.

-Mike

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memsetpc

Ouch! Not fun. Hope nobody was hurt.

In retrospect, I like the new truck better than the old one. The '03 has the chrome wheels instead of the satin, and it has some "custom" ram's head decals on the doors where it used to say "Dakota 5.9". I had the dealer remove all the lettering on the tailgate, too, except for the "R/T" in the lower right. BTW, it's jet black. If I ever get a digital cam I'll smap a few and put them up.

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

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Joe

My next door neighbor sprays his late model R/T truck with 150 shot and runs about

8.60 in the 1/8, which is mid 13's in the 1/4 at best. He also has a shift kit, and drag radials that are 2 inches shorter than stock, so he's should have a 4.10 ratio or more. His kid has a 2002 GT, 125 shot, stock tires and gears, long tube headers, and absolutely no driving ability, went 8.40 I think in the 1/8.

Ronnie in Chesapeake

95gt/aode/s-trim 7.29 > I frequent the Dodge Dakota forums as well as the Mustangs forums (Mustangs
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L&R

Ronnie, what kind of shift kit does he have? And how's he like it?

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

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Joe

Transgo. They had alot of trouble putting it in. He says it shifts harder and he likes it, but it won't chirp 2nd, which I find strange. With the rear end gears and short tires, it ought to be hitting second a ton, you know?

Ronnie in Chesapeake

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L&R

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