Of Old Farts and dinosaurs...

Michael Johnson wrote in news:qe2dnYVGt-E6437YnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Definitely want that torque. That's almost more important to me than horsepower.

The way I see it is the pieces themselves would be phase I, porting/polishing/extrude honed would be phase II and beyond.

"dwight" wrote in news:Uu6dnSngO4LDH37YnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com:

My air pump's been stationary for years now. Been running a short belt for quite a while. Exhaust gets a little stinky sometimes, but there's no inspection here and I'm no Al Gore. ;) The crate motor will never see an air pump.

I dunno. How could we put old, used parts on a brand new crate motor? I might have to go new. But the budget will probably dictate that.

As I recall, we had a very close call with human extinction when the populations "suddenly" dropped to an estimated 2000 total on the planet... and it now appears that it may have been the result of an exploding star's radiation. If that it accurate, it shows that there were survivors.

In grade school we had "Duck and Cover" exercises. The pundits said that WW3 would end mankind. Personally, I always believed that there would be pockets of survivors in alpine valleys, and from those the populations would regenerate.

A good example of nature healing itself can be seen in jungles and rivers.... In jungles, man can cut them down and build, but as soon as they are abandoned, they are quickly overgrown again. And flowing water actually cleans itself.... as the Sierra Club and other tree hugging groups point out while still claiming man is destroying the waters. Now, how can it be both ways?

So, I do what I can to keep the envir>Spike wrote:

As I mentioned in another post, humans are more like cockroaches than we care to admit.

Mankind can't destroy life on Earth. It is ridiculous to think we can. We could set off every nuke on the planet, dump every toxic chemical we have in the oceans and clear every square inch of land with bulldozers and in a few million years you wouldn't see a sign of our existence. We would be just an itch on Mother Nature's a$$ in terms of geologic time.

Have you seen the most recent news about old Al Gore? He is preaching to us to conserve energy while just one of his 4-5 mansions uses 20x the electricity and natural gas of the average American home. I won't get into how much fuel his private jet trips consume. His portrait should be beside the word "hypocrite" in the dictionary.

This morning, I was cut off by a Maxima. I'm not proud of it, but I was easily able to reel him in at above 90mph, hold him off as he tried to pass on a 270-degree exit ramp, and then left him behind far too quick.

Statistically, a Maxima should be able to handle my poor little 205hp Fox easily. This guy wasn't anywhere near as good as he thought he was.

Oh, that's alright. The only time that happens to me is when I screw up.

:()

I like to screw up. ;)

I'm not disputing these new sedans vs a stock 5-liter Fox (their number would be close); we were comparing these new sedans against a Fox sporting 340HP. And in this case, again factoring out the Fox's lack of traction -- using a street start), a 340HP Fox would eat them up, AND be plenty strong to take on most ($20K-$40K price range) performance cars today.

Patrick

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Patrick, I'm glad you posted that. ;)

Joe

snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:

With the power/number of our nukes, we can easily wipe out everything on the face of the earth a few times over.

Extinct animals/plants don't rejuvenate.

And flowing

Yes, it's possible the water might be able to clean itself, but everything/balance of plants/animals in the could/water would be lost forever. In simpler terms, think about if suddenly all the birds were wiped out. What would happen to the insect population?

Gore isn't stupid. Look at how many _big_ companies are now joining his cause... companies that were previously opposed to "his movement".

Patrick

I almost agree. Unless the nukes throw of the normal rotation of the Earth. If the nukes don't, we could so radically change the planet that human existance could end.

Do you know for a fact what he owns? And what he does on a daily basis to reduce his family's impact on the earth? As for his jet trips, at least he's using some of them to educate the public to start changing our ways -- something our current government has barely/ reluctantly done.

Patrick

Since 99.99% of all the species that ever lived on the planet are now extinct I don't see us as bucking the trend and living till the Sun explodes. IMO, we'll be lucky to live another 5,000 years.

His electricity use is public record and a known fact. He even admitted it. If we all lived his lifestyle the global oil reserves would last 10 years at best. If someone wants to tell me how I should sacrifice for the good of the plant I expect them to walk their talk. I have a ton more respect for someone like Ed Begley Jr. or Daryl Hannah that actually DO SOMETHING instead of preach one thing and live a completely opposite lifestyle. Gore is an idiot, a hypocrite and using the whole environmental global warming movement to make a bloody fortune. If he wants to impress me or get my respect then he needs to radically change his lifestyle and live like he thinks the rest of us should. Until then he should shut his yap and figure out a way to keep his electric meter needles from spinning like the rear tires of my Mustang when I'm doing a burnout in third gear.

I guess Joe will have to get the crate motor installed and then go out hunting to know who is right.

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>>> Nissan Altima 0-60 in 5.9seconds>>> Mazdaspeed 3 0-60 in 5.8seconds>>> Subaru Imprezza 0-60 in 5.6seconds>>> I could keep digging but I think these prove my point. It isn't>>>> difficult to find cars that are running very respectable 0-60 times.>>>> Plus, many of the above cars are running low 14 second quarter miles and>>>> getting great gas mileage too without a single modification.>>>> Anyone wanting to dominate the overwhelming majority of vehicles these>>>> days with a vintage Mustang had better bring 400-500 hp to the table>>>> and/or one trick rear suspension. There are some four wheel drive>>>> rockets that my car couldn't take even in a straight line. All you need>>>> to do is look at where the Vette/Cobra, and even the Mustang GT, have to>>>> be from a horsepower perspective to be considered high performance cars.>>>> The bar is set high nowadays.>>> Mike,

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in news:29udnY7J6ZkwY3nYnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Nah, just looking for a feel-good excuse to get the 340hp motor. ;)

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in news:UdadnQRMbdLBYHnYnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

We'll see what happens next year. If I give the truck to my son, I'll have to get a replacement vehicle. I really like having a truck, but the thought of a 340hp LX is very interesting.

Joe

Wait a minute. I thought your son was getting the LX. Has something changed?

If I can run the same traps as these new sedans and I only have 235, I'm pretty sure I'd wipe them out if I had 105 more ponies.

Patrick

But the extinction rate was gradual and allowed for evolution. Modern man has increased the extinction rate to an unprecedented rate, and that's without [yet] nukes thrown into the equation.

If it's true (I'd like to hear his statement) he deserves the critizisim. But on the flip side look at how many live like that, and are in [higher] positions of power who could create/make as big, or bigger changes, but haven't done a damn thing.

I agree, he should be walking the talk.

I doubt a book and movie are going to make a noticeable difference in his lifestyle... being an x-VP he'll never be without.

If he

With the amount of people/companies getting behind him I think he's making a much bigger impact than slowing the needles down on his electric meter ever would.

Patrick

I'm not saying a Camry can walk over a Fox Mustang with no options (i.e. light weight), slicks, other mods and/or a very good driver. They can more than hang with the AVERAGE bone stock Fox Mustang sporting a manual transmission. Run one against a bone stock Fox car with an automatic and my money will be on the new Camry V-6. An otherwise stock Fox Mustang with a crate motor and an AUTOMATIC transmission isn't going to destroy some of these new sedans. To do that they would have to run

0-60 times in under five seconds and burn through the 1/4 mile in the low 13 second range. IMO, you'll need a lot more than just a crate motor to make that happen.

A bone stock 5.0L Mustang with an automatic would be lucky to run the

1/4 mile in under 15 seconds. I know because I owned one for two years. They were not that fast. Since 10 hp is worth about a tenth in the 1/4 mile that extra 105 hp you get with the crate motor might shave a full second off the ET to get the car to the high 13s at best. Throw slicks on the Mustang and a few other mods and things change but then we are talking about a different race.