How desirable are Z-32s these days? (Long post warning)

It depends on if someone notices the problems and what it looks like. If you're honest about the work it needs (which you should be) and you say here it needs some body work, given the miles and that it's an automatic, you probably aren't going to get much for it. The pluses you described are just that you've done some normal maintenance. The minuses are -several- thousand dollars to fix and people now know these cars are very expencive to repair. An automatic 90 model isn't that popular or desirable either. Sorry.

Sadly they made far more automatics than manual.

Steve,

I take exception to the remark you made above. If I weren't honest about the car, why would I have even mentioned the needed valve job and transmission issue that I was suspect of? A dishonest person wouldn't even bring up repairs as potentially expensive as those of this nature. Besides, I'm not trying to sell the car via this forum. I'm just trying to get a feel for whether or not it's even worth *trying* to sell the car. Hell I'll keep the thing before I'll practically give it away. It has a whole lot of potential to be a nice car for someone that is passionate about the Z-32 body style, interior and engine type. Someone out there would probably enjoy fixing one of these cars up to keep for themself.

S.T.

Chill out, I am just saying there are lots of people who wouldn't tell the buyer about this and if the buyer knows the car is going to need

-thousands- of dollars of repairs soon, how much is he going to pay for the car? Given there are plenty of these out there that don't need this work, would you pay much for a car needing this much money spent on it? Of course not.

Which was the reason I responded. Sorry I did.

Then you better plan on just keeping it. Since you say you're honest and will tell any buyer it needs all this work, no one is going to pay much for it.

And the only reason someone would buy a car needing thousands of dollar of repairs, is because it was cheap. No one just enjoys spending lots of money on a car, do you?

Ok hows this: Someone knowing this car needs $5,000 worth of repairs is going to pay you full retail price because you are so honest." Is that what you wanted to hear? You're living in a dream world.

Are you sure about that? I'm not saying your wrong, just seems like I see a lot more stick cars than automatics.

No, I'm not living in a dream world Steve. And I AM honest. So you can ease up with your turgid diatribe on the character of people that are considering to sell one of their vehicles. While I fully understand that the 'average person' certainly isn't going to pay retail for a vehicle needing expensive repairs, myself included, there are people that are looking for a specific type of vehicle for restoration projects, etc. A vehicle is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. As an example, I have a friend that has been offered a 100 grand for his 55' Chevy. He turned it down. Personally, I wouldn't give him $250.00 for the car except as an investment to turn around and sell it for profit. I just don't care for those old cars like that. They do nothing for me.

Remember, one man's junk is another man's treasure. I've seen many, many cases where people paid exhorbitant amounts of cash for items that I wouldn't even consider taking home if someone PAID ME to. Again, all I wanted to do was get some feedback on how desirable the Z-32s are these days; WITHOUT having my character assassinated regarding honesty. By the way, I know you said you were sorry you responded, and I am too. And you talk about ME needing to chill out!

S.T.

The car needs over $5000 worth of work and is worth about $5500 at best. You can figure out how much it's worth. Given there are thousands of these cars that don't need this work done, have no body damage and lower miles why would anyone pay much for one that has all these problems? And is an automatic on top of that. Yes you're dreaming comparing this to a '55 chevy as far as a "project car"!

Your's is the LEAST desirable of any Z32 model if that helps. They made the most of these in that year and very few people would want an automatic as a "project car". Somehow you'll probably be offended by that as well?

Good grief. Where did I EVER say you were -dishonest-? Or even suggest that you were? Do you always -try- to become offended this easily?

It was obvious from your post you intended to tell the buyer the problems and I just said if you do that (which you should), you aren't going to get very much for the car and you feel offended?

I wouldn't pay more than about $500-$1000 for one in that condition and doubt anyone else would either. You might as well keep it, but then again it's going to cost you $$$$ to keep using it.

Man o man Steve, you sure have been beaten up lately for just trying to help these fools.

They come here looking for free advise when they're to lazy to use their computer and search out what they need to know for them selves. (Hint...Kelly Blue Book, local news paper, Auto swapper, ect, ect).

And for what ever dark hidden reason in their pathetic past history that looms over them creating all their silly little insecurities. They automatically think your out to cheat them, or critique them, or slander them.

I sure didn't read it the way he took it. Don't let em get you down man. I for one know how long you've been a great asset to this group. Your willingness to help and share your knowledge is much appreciated.

I really don't give a shit about this fools feelings of insecurity. You handled much nicer than I would have.

Now lets see if this fools wife will let him respond to this. Ask her real nice fool, I can't wait to see how you try to impress me with your intelligence.

Randy

Gosh Randy, I am crushed by your having referred to me as a "fool" multiple times during your post. My life will never be the same. You just contributed to my "feelings of insecurity". You should be ashamed of your imbecilic, DUMBASS self!!!

You know NOTHING about anyone's past history, intelligence or life in general. Perhaps you should mind your own damned business since no one had directed anything towards you to start with. I agree that Steve has been a solid contributor to this newsgroup. There's no way that I would ever try to refute that statement. And he did provide me with some very useful information. Sometimes when you read NG posts or e-mail messages, it can be easy to mistake someone's true intentions without seeing their facial expressions and body language when they make references to things such as honesty--or the lack of it. If I was way off base about that portion of Steve's post, then I most certainly apologize to STEVE. NOT YOU!!!

By the way, I don't have to ask the wife for anything other than the support to deal with idiots such as yourself out here in this world.

S.T.

I think his comment came from where I told you in the second post this "questioning your integrity" -wasn't what I meant- yet you still came after me. If you had "chilled out" and said you misunderstood what I meant (after I -SAID- that wasn't what I meant), then instead of taking this so personally... Oh whatever.

Never ashamed of the truth, even is so plane to see that a imbecilic dumb ass can point it out.

Usually past history is what causes paranoia, unless of coarse youv'e been paraniod your whole life. You've readily demostrated your intelligence, a couple times now. HE he he he......

If you knew that, then you would have also known that Steve has never belittled anyone posting questions here. You should have know it was just your own pathetic insecurities. Unless there's some truth conected to your fear of a tarnished reputation. hummmmmmm

Ya, chill out fool!

Why I can see your face now, you sure are looking more foolish than you did yesterday, BAWWWAAAAAA HA HA!!!!!

- If I was way off base about that portion of

Let me refer to my original post here...

And I really, really don't give a shit about an apology from some back pedaling, parinod, insecure, egocentric fool that thinks the world revolves him and his opinions.

Kness are shaking so bad she needs to hold you steady ....hey fool?

Figures.

PoP quiz.......what does STupid start with?????

"plane"???? LOL

Yeah, so have you Randy! You obviously haven't discovered spell check functionality yet. LOL! (See "paraniod")

"conected" "know"

Man, that intelligence just keeps on glaring Randy.

That would be YOU Randy. Anyone that doesn't agree 100% with a post that you do must have some sort of serious character flaw. Get real! You stooped as low as to try and bring someone's wife and past history into a NG conversation. That is just ridiculous and clearly proves that you are a redneck fool yourself.

Sorry Randy, but you just exposed yourself for the major neck that you really and truly are. I'm finished wasting my time with you Randy. You have too much foreskin in your collar. I apologized to Steve if I overreacted and that's the end of that. I'll take it no further.

S.T.

Actually most people consider spelling flames about as low as one can get.

You should have dropped this several posts ago if you had ANY integrity as you claimed. At this point....