Nissan Fraud. Regular gas

I purchased my 98 GXE with 37k on the odometer. I later found out the car was registered as a rental Car with Avis. Who puts high octane gas in a rental?!!! I know I don't!!!

I've got 147k on the odometer now. The first 5k that I had the car, I used 93. Afterward, when gas prices started creeping up I talked to a certified nissan mechanic (who is now my personal mechanic on all 3 of our Nissans). He said that the reccomendation for high octane is only a recommendation and not a requirement. He said the car will be fine so I opted for 87 and have been using it ever since. There is a slight performance decrease and slight decrease in fuel economy but the way gas prices are today to me it's not worth the extra money for the 93 and the car still runs good.

I find it hard to believe that after more than 100k all that 87 that I put in the car was really 93.

If a certified Nissan mechanic says my car will run on 87 with no problems, he uses it in his Nissan, and I get 100k out a used car using

Unless a car is highly modified I don't think using 87 is going to harm the car.

Watch words here,,,:

"Probably", and "I don't think" - for 50 or 100 bucks a year more, you would risk your engine based on that?????

So your Nissan Certified Tech knows more than the Nissan Engineers that designed the car,,?

Why would Nissan recommend premium,(91 oct),? Its certainly not a good marketing move,,,,,and they are certianly not guilty of any "fraud" as the first ranting poster contended.

Also your engine is not the same as the one in the 2000 and later.

Even if I concede that "probably" it will not shorten engine life, why buy a performance sedan, and then run around with the timing fully retarded 24/7...??? Its like filling the trunk with bricks,,,,,that "probably" would not damage the car, but who wants to drive around like that?

This thread has been talked about to exhaustion on maxima.org - overwhelming conclusion by people who know is to use 91 oct or better

- just like the gas cap says.

"542keith" wrote:

Don't drive much do you? Someone else buying your gas? If you fill once a week, $100 isn't close to what the difference is. Try again. This site might give you some help:

You obviously haven't dealt with many engineers. Many design something that looks very pretty but can't realistically be serviced, etc. You are obviously so good at your job that you never need/get any feedback. Go figure.

They can recommend it for maximum performance. Kind of stating the obvious though. The manual says you don't need it.

The people that don't use premuim gas. Are you so thick that you believe the only reason people buy a Maxima is for the performance? Do you also suggest that running 87 makes the timing fully retard? Keep to what you are good at and that isn't what you are debating.

Overwhelming? Perhaps to one that WANTS to hear that. Are you so easily convinced about everything in life that you know little about?

My gas cap says no such thing. It says to be sure it is tight or the Service Engine light might come on. The door says "Premium fuel is recommended for maximum performance". Notice mow it says 'recommended' and not 'must be used'? That is a small but important difference a chemical engineer may not get. Most others do.

OK, why not buy a Taurus and save $15k?

I traded my Taurus for my maxima --\\Trust me, you do not want to buy a Taurus even to save 15 grand,,,LOL

BTW - my Taurus owners manual said it would "run" on 84 octane with 87 or better recommended, So I guess Ford is commiting the same "fraud" that Nissan is accused of.

"Rich" wrote:

Looks like great minds think alike. I traded my 2000 Taurus with 900 miles for my 2000 Maxima GLE. I took a $3000 bath on the Taurus that was worth every penny. I still have the Maxima with 118,000 miles and I love it. ==================================

Chuck

You are my hero - it only took you 900 miles to realize what a POS the Taurus/Sable was,,

I spent 52,000 grueling miles, throwing out wheel barrels full of cash to keep that money pit rolling,,,

Head gaskets - $2200 (when was the last time you ever heard of head gaskets failing,,,??????)

Then the water pump, then the front seal, then the back seals, (the dam thing leaked fluid from every seam,,,I use to call it the Exxon Valdez..), power steerng pump, you mention a pump I replaced it.

not a power accessorie on that car still worked after 5 years,,,,a crow bar wouldnt roll down the windows,,LOL

I ended up selling it to a company that needed my model and year to do a crash test - I kid you not on that,,,

So I guess thats why I do not feel spending $600 bucks at my Nissan dealer to get something fixed right is a big deal.

Chuck >Looks like great minds think alike. I traded my 2000 Taurus with 900

Hah, we call my wife's Explorer the "Valdez" due to excessive fuel consumption.

We have a 2nd child coming within the week, and her lease on that POS is up in 7 months or so. She only buys domestics, due to her UAW family. I honestly have no idea what to do - the Ford Edge looks promising, but we played the "first model year Ford" game with the Escape. It wasn't a BAD vehicle, but we did only have it for 30k miles or so. The transmission was slipping, so we traded it before it self destructed.

The only UAW-made family hauler I can think of are the GM minivans, which are completely awful and from the mesazoic period. It's a shame, because the '07 Quest looks really, really nice. My folks have an '04, which was problematic in the beginning but fine now.

The Quest is really a Ford. If they still make the Mercury Villager, it is the same thing.