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anyone help with engine fault diagnosis?

OK, just before I finally buy a new engine or get mine fully reconditioned.. does anybody have a clue as to what these symptoms might indicate?

It's a fuel injected 1.9 litre XU block, by the way. I'll give you the full list of symptoms since I first noticed the problem.

First off... last year sometime. I got stuck in traffic for a long time with the engine idling and I had blue smoke out the back for about ten miles afterwards - so it was burning oil. Figured it was making it's way down the valve stems or something. This only seemed a problem when left at idle for a long time. Second, it starts consuming oil at increasing rates. I don't notice any blue smoke though except when left idling as before. Begins to look like it may be leaking a bit of oil out of the engine somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can see where. By the start of this year, it's still using up oil and now I'm hearing a ticking noise when I start the car up, coming from the top end on the opposite side to the distributor. It's not too loud and goes away after a couple of minutes driving. Next, I think I started smelling petrol pretty badly whenever I stop anywhere. It seems to be coming out with the exhaust gases, but it's never backfired (so maybe not?). Over the past couple of months, the ticking noise has worsened. I also had a rather bad fright when I managed to pour 2.5 litres of oil into it about three weeks ago before it was up at the maximum (quite a sudden drop, although I didn't note the miles - possibly around 1000). Next, I drove it maybe 50-60 miles and the ticking noise got quieter, but didn't actually go away all through the journey. Now, it's ticking very loudly. It's been three or four weeks ago since I last put oil in it, but the oil level won't budge from the maximum - so it's stopped consuming oil??!? Sounds like maybe the oil isn't getting to the head? What's likely to happen? Loud explosions?!?

And yes, I understand that all this probably means 'shagged engine', but it'd be cool if I actually knew what was causing all this before I get it reconditioned.. might be better off scrapping it and looking for another engine if this is *really* serious.

Cheers,

Chris.

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Chris B
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Hi Chris,

Would indicate problem with cylinders 3 or 4 (cyl.1 is on the flywheel side). Ticking noise may be caused by a bad valve clearance, you may need to check it. My second idea would be a worn camshaft, as the very first XUs (up to

1984 or 1986, I don't know) were prone to "fast" camshaft usage, but AFAIK the replacement camshafts always cured the problem. Still, could indicate either a wrong valve clearance &/or worn camshaft.

Strange, I've never heard of an engine which would burn oil (moreover, at high rate) and would suddenly stop burning oil. BTW, did you make an oil change before it stops burning oil ? Perhaps you changed oil grade for a thicker one ?

No (at least if I get your question the way it should), usually causes bad firing, 'cause oil is far harder to burn than petrol.

Of course. Also check compressions if possible, then report to Pug's values for a diagnostic / todo list. I mean, I have no clue about the point you may need to work about compressions, but for example the 205 Diesel tech manual I have here says "don't go for an engine servicing or overhauling before having controlled air filter, valve clearance & starter speed if compression test reports under 18 bars". This value of 18 bars could be called "critical compression value" or similar (my term, not sure it's a usual one), of course is lower on a XU, perhaps doesn't exist.

BTW, valve stems is known to be a "potential weakness" of XU engines, watch out old 405s for example.

So, my conclusion is : - valve clearance, - camshaft / possible worn cam, - no clue for the burning / not burning oil. Perhaps it was leaking from the back of camshaft cover (where you don't see that well).

HTH, G.T snipped-for-privacy@worldonline.fr

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Thanks for the advice. I've been convincing myself for a long time now that the engine is in a seriously bad state, yet it keeps on going. I'll check the valve clearances - maybe it isn't as bad as I've been thinking. I've heard about the valve stems being a potential weakness, and I do think some oil is being burnt from there. I just can't understand why it's stopped burning/leaking as I've been using the same oil. My only clue is that up until last month, I was covering more miles on the motorway on a daily basis. Now, I'm doing more short journeys in town so maybe it's just the effect of less miles and lower speeds - perhaps it starts burning oil up at high revs? Does that sound likely?

Cheers,

Chris.

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Chris B

Hello,

I guess it's quite certain.

Worthes a try, for that you only need to remove the camshaft cover, complete valve clearance checking takes, say, 1 hour. Setting valve clearances takes a lot more time, though.

Yes, it sounds very likely to me, 'cause I've already seen an old Renault Trafic 1.8 petrol (little van, really crappy - perhaps the most crappy van I've ever seen, possibly called another way abroad), which used to burn oil if driven over 80KPH. I agree it was true, but no clue about why this behaviour (even if I'm pretty sure it has someone to see with higher revs).

Regards, G.T snipped-for-privacy@worldonline.fr

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