dealing with serpentine belts can be interesting. one day I had a customer come in my store, his astro van had just tossed its belt. I sold him a belt and he went out to the parking lot to install it. some time later he came back in, a little upset, saying I had given him the wrong belt, it was much too LONG. checking the catalog again, it was the only belt listed for several years before and after his application. another customer offered to help so out the door they went. it wasn't long till back they came, now the helper informed me the belt was too SHORT. by this time the van owner was totally pissed at my obvious incompetence. (15+ years in the auto parts business at that time) wanting to make the customer happy, I talked one of the mechanics from the shop to help. in less than 2 minutes the belt was on......and the reason for the original belt failing was obvious, the a/c clutch pulley was locked up. now I had to tell him, confirmed by the mechanic, there was no way to bypass the compressor. now totally irate he storms out the door shouting he'll never come in here again. the belt was squealing like hell as he hit the hiway. been retired for 2 years, can't say I miss dealing with the motoring public