GM CEO Dan Akerson labels the Toyota Prius as a Geek mobile he'd wouldn't be caught dead in.

Dec 12, 2010 15 Replies

story summary: On December 10, 2010, while speaking to "The Economic Club of Washington DC" General Motors CEO Dan Akerson said, "We commonly refer to the geek-mobile as the Prius. And I wouldn't be caught dead in a Prius." Akerson declared the Chevy Volt as the "world's first electric vehicle with extended range capability." During the talk, CEO Akerson complained that GM's 49.5 billion dollar federal bailout restriction on executive salary and compensation made it difficult for him to attract and retain executives.



commentary: Not everyone who drives a Prius is a *geek* ( technologically inspired individual), most of the people who drive a Prius drive it normally and do not use it to it fullest potential. However, because the Prius drive technology is so advanced it can do easily do hypermiling driving techniques that once took great skill to do -- so it has a significant community of Ecologically -Energy Efficiency inspired drivers than the limited edition of the 199x Honda Insight (first gen honda Insight hybrid - which is the car which currently holds the BEST hypermiling results so far in national competition). The Chevy Volt is a fine car but it's success does not hinge on how much GM pays Akerson or his top executives. Like the Prius the Volt is a work in progress - however, the Volt design team does not have the Prius design team advantage of being in the real world for ten years. Ultimately it will not be the executive but the geeks of GM's engineering research and development section which will determine if Chevy Volt design will survive the real world. Because the Volt is such a unique car - GM needs to provide additional support to the owner/drivers. For example, since the Volt does not come with a spare tire it should either come with run-flat tires or On-star should come free for the first two or three years. Given Volt's high MRSP, GM should also be providing technical assistance for the Volt via a user group forum via the internet.


sources =======Top GM exec says federal pay limits hurt company Ken Thomas. Associated Press. Dec 10 2010

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GM CEO calls Toyota Prius a "geek-mobile." touts Chevrolet Volt Mark Trumbull. Christan Science Monitor. Dec 10, 2010
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GM CEO calls Toyota Prius "geek-mobile." wants to pay execs more James R Healey/Drive On, USA Today
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Why should anyone pay a premium salary for the fraud that is "Chevy Volt"?

No spare tire? No run flat tires? Yikes. Hopefully it at least has free roadside assistance...

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Currently GM is fitting the Chevy Volt with Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max (TM) which are good low rolling resistant tires but since the Volt has no spare tire I believe GM should fit the Chevy Volt with run flat radial tires like the Goodyear Eagle NCT5(TM)

GM's OnStar is currently an option for the Chevy Volt but in my humble opinion I think it or some other kind of roadside assistance (AAA maybe?) is necessary. The Chevy Volt design still needs work.

OnStar won't work when the batteries fail....

Huh? You can't press the OnStar button if the battery is completely dead, but can certainly call them just like AAA or any other roadside assistance plan.

As stated.

, but can certainly call them just like AAA or any other roadside

Since you have a cell phone, why do you need OnStar?

I, personally, don't need OnStar nor do I have it. But, they can do things like unlock your car if it gets locked accidentally (hard to do in modern cars like my Prius) and they get notified of airbag deployment, etc. I also know people who use it to ask for restaurant recommendations and things like that. It is not worth it to me, but others disagree. Regardless, my only point was that it is not useless if your battery is dead.

So, pray tell, how does it work when your car battery is dead?

How does your cell phone work when its battery is dead?

I carry a spare, user-replaceable battery. "Not available on iToy."

You call them on the phone (800 number) just like any other roadside assistance plan.

The problem with the last several posts in this part of the thread is no one has differentiated between the HV/traction battery and the 12V battery. The Prius only allows between 40 and 80% SOC for the HV battery and the Volt is between 30 and 100 % IIRC with "mountain mode" raising the lower limit. If you run out of fuel and discharge the HV battery too far by continuing to drive on electric (like an idiot) you still have the 12V to power the Onstar stuff in the Volt.

Possibly, though this assumes the Volt's "OS" and/or management computers haven't cratered and inflicted collateral damage on ancillaries -- as often occurs.

I'd like to find out just what gas mileage a Volt makes when driven on a long trip on the Interstate at 70-80 mph.

4 or 6 years ago, one of the German makers had a fuel-cell electric which they fueled by some kind of converter which extracted H2 from a hydrocarbon fuel. They did a coast-to-coast demo run with it. I've never heard another word about the technology. Does anyone know anything?

When driven in battery mode it gets about 2 miles per kwh charge (35 miles range) In gasoline mode(Mountain mode) the Volt gets about 35 mpg

When the Volt was being test driven in Washington DC, the GM engineer who was supervising the test drive was constantly switching the Volt back and forth from EV mode to Mountain mode because the dealership did not have a battery recharger station there. While doing this low speed circuit test drive which never went over 40 mph - the Volt multiple function console was displaying 65 mpg ( on sunny saturdday in Maryland at about 68 degree fahrenheit temperature ).

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