Please be aware that many answers posted in those bulletin boards are
incorrect and are never corrected. They are never corrected because the
moderation policies on that site has made several posters, with the
correct answers, stop posting.
While Saabnet.com is a great concept, the bulletin boards are censored and
if you don't follow Scott's strict 'blinkering' board posting rules he
blocks you from posting. I was blocked from posting on Saabnet because I set
up my C900 Workshop website which contains online web-based forums, mailing
lists, yahoo groups, etc. and stacks of reference material links which goes
against 'Saabnet.com bulletin board posting policy', and the few posts I was
able to get into the Saabnet.com C900 bulletin board all contained a link to
my own website (since Scott's boards provide the facility to add a web link,
etc. with each posting).
That's fine as it's Scott's call as to what he does with his site, but I
don't condone the approach as he is basically forcing people to use his site
and not go to alternatives (and there are plenty more besides the site I
have set up).
The emails I exchanged with Scott were fairly terse and the tone seemed to
be one of 'well if you do something which competes with Saabnet you will be
blocked from posting'. If I was directly 'competing' I'd try to steal his
commercial advertisers but I have a rule of not having any commercial
advertising connected to my C900 Workshop site as the site is open to
*everyone* with an interest in C900's, not just those people who Scott
thinks are not trying to usurp visitors to his site.
All that aside, the best way to initially track down information for
something you're not sure about is via Google and by asking here in this
newsgroup. I've discovered a lot of other sites with chatrooms, bulletin
boards, online forums, etc. which Saabnet doesn't have any info about
through searching via Google for info on various Saab-related topics,
usually with fairly good results. Some of those I've added to the links page
on my C900 Workshop site, and almost all I have invited to join the Saab
C900 Webring that I set up (though almost none have accepted the invitations
- once again that's up to each website owner to decide to join or not).
PS. The other thing which bothers me about Saabnet is that Scott has a great
photo gallery system going, but for the time I've known about his site he
hasn't been accepting any new image submissions! No idea why. I just accept
it and save up the pics I take of my Saab's and the work I'm doing on them
for a time in the near future when I start creating my own Saab image
galleries and (hopefully) get a public web-based Saab C900 pic gallery
Craig's Saab Page --> http://lios.apana.org.au/~c900 Sydney, NSW Australia
Craig's C900 Workshop -- For all Saab 'Classic' 900 Enthusiasts world-wide!
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to request that this be removed as it
conflicts with omnipotent infalability of this newsgroup, and the poster
be banned for all eternity, and if he appeals or complains the ban
should be extended ;)
"Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf"
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
in article email@example.com, Sleeker GT Phwoar
at firstname.lastname@example.org wrote on 20/10/2004 10:10:
Hey bud! How's the new weapon of mass destruction? I must confess to having
looked at a Nissan Silvia recently - one of the older twin turbo models. It
was an auto though, but would still have been fun. I looked at one about
four years ago, but bought a SAAB instead ... Something about gold wheels
not going down too well for a guy like me in a place like I live ...
Speaking of BBs - there are several others out there, going by names as
diverse as 900 Aero, SAAB Central, SAAB Scene, UK SAABs, etc. I find if I
want to know something quickly and want a correct answer (short of rining my
excellent mechanics, of course), I know where to make my post. If I want to
share that advice, I can go to BBs :)
1989 900 Turbo S
I doubt you will be able to get this removed from the archives. For
the most part this message would disappear from most news servers
within a week. As long as we continue to reply to this thread, the
origional message will stay alive.
Freedom of speach is a great freedom that comes with the ultimate
power to ignore the speaker. I would rather have the freedom of
speach and have to deal with a few posts that irritate me, as opposed
to being censored.
Freedom of speach means you must give your opponent the opportunity to
express his views. If you're not willing to do that, the you need to
keep quiet too.
My 2 cents worth.
"Drive a liberal crazy, work hard and be happy!"
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:10:16 +0100, Sleeker GT Phwoar
It's a parody of the fact that the saabnet guy has a habit of bannination
of people for no readily apparent reason. More than a couple of people here
used to contribute a bunch over there, did something (or didn't do
something) he didn't like, and he not only blocked their IP, but he
removed all of their historical posts from the site. Further, he's not
real good and/or careful at how to banninate by IP, because whole ISPs
have been blocked in the past due to one person being on his shit-list.
Granted, he _does_ own the server and it's his choice to do so, but when
I learned of that behavior I decided to spend my efforts and time here,
where the whims of a dictatorial arbitrary decision-making process aren't
going to erase what I have written. No point in spending effort on
something that someone else might choose to erase for real or imagined
in article email@example.com, Nobody In Particular
at firstname.lastname@example.org wrote on 20/10/2004 20:00:
Indeed! The pleasure of having freedom to speak inherently contains the
responsibility not to deny others their right to speak back. The guy in
question owns his website and chooses to allow other people onto it - if you
go to someone's barbeque, he has a right to kick you out. This guy, however,
also archives *my* words - he's running a public firework display and I find
that quite distasteful that he kicks people out without reason or
Other BBs ... Oh, and Usenet, have a solid sense of internationalism and are
quite capable of moderating themselves by good behaviour and a public
telling off when people step over the line. I have seen someone breech one
T&C quite badly on one BB, but he apologised and the affected people
accepted the apology. He was allowed to stay on the board (after several
affected people were contacted) ... He wasn't outright banned, but a level
headed, adult consensus was reached. He was a "moderator" too and should
have known better, but drink and high spirits can get the better of us all
On a wider note, I find it quite uplifting that people from all over the
world with different languages, cultures, experiences and expectations can
come together on a BB or Usenet and discuss matters of common interest. I'm
ashamed that as singular nations we cannot seem to do that.
Well said and I now understand the "banned" comment.
I blame the media for causing a split in our country. They fuel the
fire that burns brightly and when they are caught with their hands in
the cookie jar, they first deny it, then apologize in a manner that
smells worse than the original story.
When all you see is bad news, you need to suspect the bias of those
reporting the news. I'm an optimist, I believe things will be better
tomorrow than they were today. I refuse to swing my vote to a
candidate who has a platform based on fear and what "might" happen.
This election is just plain nasty. You want to talk about
disenfranchised, I hate turning on the TV because it's one side bad
mouthing the other - they are both guilty! It's unfortunate that we
have no real "choice" to base our vote on. It's either the status quo
or vote for a change, which is not much better than the status quo! I
want to vote FOR someone not AGAINST someone!
People who are basing their vote entirely along party lines, based on
reports from the one sided media, or a hate filled statement by an
actor, they are uninformed voters. Voters owe it to themselves to
research the truth, never trust what you read in the newspaper or see
on TV, verify it before you claim it's true.
I'll step off the soapbox now - sorry group, I needed to vent.
I'm still looking for a front driver's side fender and driver's door.
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:16:46 GMT, Paul Halliday
Er, What? It's a case of a guy being too heavy-handed in his editorial
process, nothing more.
Um, OK, so does that mean you'll be on Saabnet or here, or both, or neither?
Yup. But Kerry lies too much like Clinton did, so I'm voting against
him. Particularly since his lies on a topic I feel is important are
so similar to Clinton's lies on the same topic.
Which side of the car do you sit in while driving, please? I have a
driver's door for a c900 in my barn in Wisconsin, good shape, that nice
dark metallic blue. In our part of the world we sit on the left side
while driving, if that helps.
The connotation is of a semi-literate anti-government back woods type.
Not sure of the linguistic origins, but it sounds southern-US'ish
when spoken. Think hillbilly, if that means anything at all.
Say, how's the Queen? Tell ER I said "hey" next time you see her, wouldja?
Take I94 into I65 and go all the way to the end. Go west from there
about 35 miles and you're where I am!
While we may not always drive in the right lane, we do still sit on
the left hand side of the car!!
Contact me at jwmort(at)yahoo.com and we'll discuss the door.
I should be placed in a drug induced coma until Jan 2005 - maybe all
this will be over by then!
Thank God for compact disk players and Sirrus Radio!
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