I am looking to replaced my totalled Saturn SL92 with possibly the new
2004 Saturn Coupe Quad. I am going to Saturn of Devon (PA) tomorrow to test drive it, as well as the LS and the VUE (just for kicks).
My two questions are this:
1) Has anyone driven the 2003 Saturn Ion Coupe and liked it? Any problems with it? Liked\hated the style? Preferred the older SL models?
2) I have noticed from the pictures on the Saturn website that the Coupe instrument panel is located NOT in front of the driver, but in the MIDDLE of the dashboard. Has anyone any experience with driving a car with the dashboard in the position? I'm test driving the vehicle myself tomorrow, but right now I am already feeling a little funny about the instruments panel being to my right and not in front of me. I would image yhat would take -quite a getting used to since it appears different from every OTHER American car out there.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Alexandra Wehle Wynnewood, PA snipped-for-privacy@cybersashi.com
I own an '03 QC, no significant complaints at all.
I found the center instrument panel didn't take much getting used to at all. It seems more unusual when I get behind the wheel of another car now, with the gauges sticking up in front of you and blocking the view..
I think Kirk bought an '03 ION - he mentioned something about the tactile feel of the electric steering and that the '04 model is improved. He's also got the variable auto tranny too - maybe he'll comment...
I bought a 2003 Saturn Ion 3 Quad Coupe and am pretty happy with it.
I was able to pay cash for the car (got me $2000 cash back) and get my GM employee discount (about 10%?) due to my tenure with Hughes Aircraft Company, so I feel that I got a real deal on the car.
I like the power that the car has - I think that the Ecotec 2.2 liter engine is a real winner. I get about 25-30 miles per gallon with the car.
I REALLY like the VTI transmission - when you stomp on it, the engine goes right up to its full power speed, and then the car speeds up to catch up with it. After driving this transmission, I don't like a regular automatic transmission any more.
I'm almost 44 years old, and needing the granny glasses (getting far sighted in my old age). As a result, I REALLY like the center mounted instrument panel because it's about 9 inches further away from the driver than a standard panel would be. It's a little wierd at first, but I've come to prefer it now.
My wife and I had a pair of 97 SL2s until the middle of this year. I got a ION 3 Coupe, the wife got a ION 3 Sedan. We both agree - the ION is a much nicer car.
Not quite a while. Maybe a day or two...
Post the specific questions here, and I'll try to get the specific answers to you.
Problems that I've had:
With mine (quad coupe): After a long trip, the computer can get a bit confused and let the engine stall out. Happened once in 11,000 miles. I suspect that this is a software bug and will be eliminated in the next code revision (that is, it's probably NOT a concern for the 2004 cars).
With wife's:
Front left turn signal, parking & DRL bulb burnt out - initially defective. Replaced under warranty - I consider this a minor problem.
Temperature gauge read high (but the actual engine temperature was normal). This took two trips to the dealer to fix - the second time I was armed with the Saturn manuals ($160) and my PhD in Electrical Engineering to "enlighten" the dealer into taking me seriously and replacing the instrument panel cluster (as I requested the FIRST time).
My overall assessment: The Saturn ION appears (so far) to be a GREAT little car for the money.
I've been driving Saturns since 1994, a 94 SC2 and a 98 SL2, now an 03 Ion3 QC. I can honestly say I feel the QC is the best of all of them. The center console takes a little bit to adjust to but now it's just fine.
Thanks for all the replies! They have been helpful!
I test drove an Ion Coupe 3 today and liked it a lot. I actually liked the smaller stearing wheel, although the sensitivity of the wheel took a bit of getting used to.
As for the instrument panel, that was quite easy to get to used, much to my surprise. It didn't bothr me in the least. And the little red needle gaugues glow in the dark! How cool is that!
One question I have that forgot to ask the salesperson (who was very nice): this is the first car I will be buying that has a passenger-side airbag. My dog frequently rides with me and I want the airbag to have a "kill' switch. Does anyone know if this can be done to a Saturn. I know that Chevy offers it on their Blazers. I'm hoping Saturn can do the same.
I have heard the kill switch is especially needed for having younger children riding in the passenger seat. The deployment could kill them. Same thing with a dog.
I'll probably call the dealership about this, but I was curious if anyone knew.
Alexandra Wehle snipped-for-privacy@cybersashi.com
There's no airbag disable switch available for the Ion. Usually those only come on vehicles which either have no back seat, or on some trucks/SUVs where the back seats can be removed.
On vehicles that don't come with such a switch from the factory, by (US) law they can only be installed if the owner certifies that their vehicle has no back seat, or for whatever reason an infant, child under 12, or other person with a medical condition posing special risks from an airbag must ride in the passenger's seat.
Young children really shouldn't be riding in the front seat - just have a look at the big warning labels on the sun visors. The same probably goes for a dog.
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