Cleaning coolant sludge from engine

1990 Chev K1500. 350, somewhere around 240,000km. (odo broke years ago...)

intake gasket failed and I got coolant in the motor - everywhere. Truck ran rough, stalled. Chocolate milk in the oil pan.

What we did: Changed oil and filter. Yum. Pulled distributor, hooked up priming tool and primed engine with fresh oil. Pulled all the plugs. Blew some more monkey snot out of a couple of cylinders. Did a compression test. Amazingly enough, still good - I was convinced it was a head gasket. Swapped intake gaskets. Cleaned out one rocker cover and the valley area with a shop vac and rags. At this point I still wasn't 100% sure it would run or if it did if it was going to run without knocking. Remember, the motor is 19 years old with lots of miles... Got it started, ran it for about a total of a half hour at idle/fast idle type speeds. Took for a quick drive around the block. Changed the oil and filter again. That smelled REAL BAD...

My question is - what can I do to remove the sludge that's left? I didn't drop the pan or even remove both valve covers, so I cringe at what's in there. I'm thinking a quart of ATF, going for a 100 mile drive once I'm sure there's no leaks or anything to get it nice and warm and boil off the water in the oil, and then change the oil again.

You know it's going to be bad when the fuel injectors are covered in breen/grown goo.

The motor's a little bit noisier than before, but not bad. This truck is what I use to go to Home Depot and tow my race car - it's my father-in-law's old farm truck, so noisy and ugly is fine. I just wasn't keen on a whole new motor in a 20 year old truck. Plus, how do I get the shortblock to the machine shop? I'd use my truck... but it's broken.

Ray

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ray
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to get it hot on a nice long drive and boil off all the water right now with the oil you've got.

I don't think the ATF is going to help much... it's a good solvent for removing oil-soluble junk like varnish from oil breakdown, but I don't think it'll do all that well to remove water-based stuff.

I think the thing to do is get in there right now and drive, and drive the water and glycol out by boiling. Wouldn't hurt to do another oil change after another short drive, though.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

thanks. Yeah, I'm not expecting another 15 years out of the motor, but if I can hold off buying another truck for a year or so, that's money I don't have to spend.

I always cringe at the idea of a $20k (or more) truck being used to haul drywall and going to the dump, but that's what I need a truck for. I like my current truck because it's cheap and ugly, but I also need it to "just work" - I was thinking about a rebuilt motor with a big cam... I am a hotrodder... but realized that's not a very useful truck.

Ray

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ray

But a Vortec 5.7 is a mere $300 proposition in the "you pull it" yards in my neck of the woods (west MI).

Not a hard swap...

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Anumber1

I know, but with two small kids and a race car, time is hard to come by. Plus, the truck has a bunch of other small issues... the back window is plexiglass, the odometer doesn't work, the posi is shot, the front axle actuator doesn't seem to work anymore, etc... so it's a good beater truck, but I'm at the point where it needs more work than I'm interested in doing to it to keep it on the road. I reused the valve cover gaskets and cleaned the plugs - I wasn't sure the engine was going to run at all so I didn't see the need for new parts. I am keeping it and tuning it up, it's just getting to be old and broken and when you need the truck to just run, that's where I'm having a problem...

Ray

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ray

Hi, Ray. If you aren't blowin' smoke at us, you and your racin' buddies surely know by now that you remove both valve covers and use an old speedo chain (internal cable, that is) to run down thru the oil-return holes, and pour solvent on heads to 'brush it up'. Also, drain crankcase and replace oil with carb-cleaner and let it soak over a weekend. On Monday, drain out all the goop, and your internals, even the oil-pump pickup screen, are now clean and goop-free and shiny as new( well, almost! or at least closer!). Replace with clean oil & new filter and drive it around and get it H-O-T. Come back, change oil & filter again while H-O-T, and then drive on! [I really like to change oil/filter again after 1-200 miles.] I've cured high-mileage (and low) that developed lifter noise and oil-light redness soon after getting up to operating temp when it would draw goop onto the oil-pump pickup screen and stop it up--numerous times. NOT a short-term patch to pass off junk to someone else, but an actual cure so long as it wasn't driven forever in that condition/doing that--I've seen 'em run several years and 1000's of miles afterwards. Knowing how hard it is to come by the good old carb-cleaner, I've had to begin using de-greasers (similar to purple power) that a friend brings me from the plant where he works, 5 gallons for $10, and it works about as good; I just don't care for the water-base as compared to the older stuff. Luck to you on the upcoming racing season! s

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sdlomi2

What I noticed is that inside the valve cover, the springs and rockers were either coated in goop or looked like they had been steam cleaned of all the oil/varnish you'd expect on a 20 year old motor.

I've not actually driven the truck anywhere since fixing it, but I'll be putting insurance back on it this weekend and going for a 100 mile drive and then changing the oil again.

Yum.

Ray

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ray

If it was mine and I was *Really* cheap, I would just flush it a few times with super cheap store brand oil (and filter)(flush meaning brought to full operating temp and kept there for a half an hour or so, no lugging or real load on the motor).

You should be ok after a couple of cycles.

IF you can find one of those old style, paint can types of "carb dip", I like HLS's plan of a quickie dip of that pickup screen.

Then again, you maybe, perhaps, should keep your eyes peeled for a donor motor on the cheap. It may even come with spare parts enough to make yours better for cheaper.

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Anumber1

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