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Alan Mac Farlane
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that is why I go for the automatics ... the new ATs go into neutral and coast .. so they get the same gas mileage, tire mileage, and brake mileage as manual transmissions.

Mind you ... getting and holding the gear you want is good ... like on the Ice Road ... no automatics up there much.

BMW ... is developing the "Infinity Gear Transmission" ... where one will have a high torque engine, maybe a V-12 with pistons the size of salt shakers, a large fly wheel .. and it will just sit at idle. Maybe even a high compression diesel engine.

Then all one will have is a Transmission Pedal on the floor ... and burn rubber at any speed with the engine at idle.

It is coming ...

sumbuddie on da watchtower

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Alan Mac Farlane

Hmmm....same motor as my Jetta. Fox wagon was a cool car. And I know of some Rabbit diesel 'trucks' that have gone >500,000 miles!!

They're too sporadic. If you get a good one, you really have a good car. But if you get a bad one...

Too bad they can't get a better hold of their quality control. VW makes some very cool cars.

I wouldn't hold my breath...

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Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B

YOU know I'm a Toyota fan. I had one Honda...Had One Never Did Again... Only because Toyotas are more accessible. I almost got a Honda Civic Si in

2006 instead of my Scion tC, but there was a 3-4 month wait. Just like in 1977 when I wanted an 'original' Accord...

The Focus is another cool car gone awry. We had one on the lot; probably didn't sell because it was the funky looking 3-door ZX3 in...yellow.... Now, I like yellow! I matched the color and sprayed a God-Awful Green Krylon Tercel AWD wagon someone gave me, and then pearl-coated it to make it *REALLY* glow!

That Focus was one hell of a car! Fast, comfortable, innovative, and I like quirky looking cars, so I dug it. It was also a 2000, 2nd year IIRC, so being an American product I was a little leery.

The Taurus was a good car. When you stamp out >1/4 mil in 8 months, you're bound to have some troubles. Likewise for the Ranger. Get a halfway decent one, and you have a good little truck.

Personally, I've wanted one of these since I was 9 years old...

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Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B

When exactly did you buy it? Ford upped the powertrain warranty to 60,000 miles for 2006 models purchased after July 14, 2006.

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Derek

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Derek Gee

I have owned two Passats, and they were both darn good, but I have had friends who owned them (Passats and the new Beetle) and they were a PITA. It IS sporadic.

I wrote to the CEO of VWUSA a couple of years ago and entreated him to become involved to improve the quality and to support the client. I, not unexpectedly, got a reply that he was deeply involved, dedicated to improving quality, etc etc.

Action talks, bullshit walks

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HLS

That's why VW had to extend warraties long before Hyundai did...

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Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B

One can say that about any make/model car. They're called "lemons". My personal experience with VWs is before the mid-90s, they were by and large dependable at the very least.

VW quality control went when they went fishing for the bigger market almost a decade ago .

Maybe I won't have to. The rate I'm going, it'll be 12 years until I hit

100K miles. By then, my detached garage roof will be covered with solar cells and the garage will house a Ford electric plug-in.
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The Passat has some very good points, but it is clearly not designed with any thought to repair. To do even routine work in the engine compartment requires extensive dissasembly.

The problem is that his notion of quality is probably not the same as my notion of quality. I can live with readily-repaired defects that he might not consider acceptable, and I'm extremely frustrated by the sort of repair procedures that he probably considers reasonable.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

Some of the biggest complaints I heard about were electrical system problems. If there were one focusable electrical unit problem, that might be more easily fixed. When the problem is spread over a "system", you may never get everything fixed and working correctly.

It is, IMO, a matter of taking responsibility for citruslike product...maybe not total lemons approaching them. GM never did very well at this either, until their ox was in the ditch.

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HLS

This is increasingly becoming a problem for ALL car manufacturers. The complexity of the electrical systems is increasing exponentially, and the knowledge of the dealer mechanics is not increasing at the same rate. On top of that, most of this stuff is designed to be replaced in large expensive modules, in order to make troubleshooting easier. This means even minor repairs become expensive, and even worse it means that board-swapping "changineers" can very rapidly turn a minor problem into an enormous expense.

Hell, look at Mercedes...... and don't even get me started on the newer BMW electronics...

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

I was talking to a guy I know today who bought a GMC p/u from me when I used to sell used cars. 100,000 miles and one tranny later, the thing is still going. He loads about 3 tons of scrap in it regularly to bring to the recycler's.

I said to him, pointing to my Scion, "Toyota occasionally makes a lemon, GM ocassionally makes a good one..."

Generalization, but GM would be in better shape if their paradigm more closely matched Toyota's...

Actually, the Rabbit was kind of hit or miss, too. For every 3 good ones there was one really horrible copy.

My tC is a 2005 with 26,000 miles. I'll get there sooner, but not by much...

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Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B

I've opened two G5M's, and see no evidence to support synchronized reverse. Further proof is when you try to go into reverse immediately after pressing the clutch without letting the input shaft spin down. It grinds. Both of my G5M's did it. The FSM I have says it's got a sync'd reverse. I don't believe it. If you look at how the linkage works, there is a straight-cut gear that flips upward to link the input and output shafts and reverse the direction of the output in the process of doing so. There is no syncronizer on the reverse fork that I can see.

As far as the symptom that the OP is mentioning, it sounds like something went casters-up in the linkage inside the box. Might be easier to find a good used junkyard transaxle and put that into the car and fix the one you have as time permits. At only 30k the bearings and syncronizers -should- be in perfect shape, so the repair might be as simple as replacing one or two hard parts and resealing the case halves. The fact that the forward gears are still working is a very good sign. The G5M isn't terribly hard to take apart, I did mine with a a few sockets and a hammer and punch to remove the roll pin from the

5th gear fork. Before you get too far into the repair just remember that the differential side gears in the G5M's I've worked on are not self-supporting. You -must- put a PVC pipe or wooden dowel in the hole for the CV axle once you pull the first axle out, or you will get to re-align the differential gears. Ask me how I know...I got a 2,000 mile mint used example shipped to me, sans supports for the differential gears, and had to open the box to fix it.

Chris

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Hal

Yup, on many transaxles the norm is to do away with any machined hub on the back of the side gears (probably saves a penny), so it is always wise to secure any unfamiliar differential side gear with a suitable pipe or what-have-you during axle removal. Bet you're an expert on that gearbox now, huh?! :-)

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Toyota MDT in MO

May Ford Focus has been flawless so far, with about 13,000 mi on it.

Evidence that Ford Foci have more problems than other cars, please.

Jeff

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Jeff

The technology is excellent. At least until recently, the reliability of VWs has not been that good, however.

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Jeff

The technology is excellent. At least until recently, the reliability of VWs has not been that good, however.

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You can use the word quality, or durability, or product integrity if you wish instead of "technology".. The fact is that VW, even now, is not as good as it should be.

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HLS

Nothing is as good as it should be, sadly. The real world is just like that.

In the eighties and nineties, VW fell for the common German delusion that one should never use one part when five would do. This philosophy is very contrary to the original spirit of the VW Bug. Sadly it is a problem that is no longer exclusively German, either.

On the other hand, the British philosophy is that one should never use one part when a piece of rope would do. It is possible to go too far in the other direction as well.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

ROTFLMAO....too true

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HLS

I wouldn't rule out the 2000s either. As the cost of the VW product goes up (think Phaeton, Tourag or the Audi and Porsche lines in general) the amount of extra crap increases proportionally. It seems that most of the stuff that could be eliminated is what fails the most; my favorite being the $600 secondary air pump, a part no more advanced than a $25 hair dryer. For $600 they can't at least make the part durable? Don't forget the poorly designed turbo diesels (90's) available in even the cheapest of VWs. Add that they (VW) target the eclectic buyer that manages to 'like' the car a whole bunch but can't see fit to fix it when it fails. Then those cars become 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand used car sales to either poor folk or people who will never ever fix their car under any circumstances. That's why VW sucks and why working on VWs for a living sucks.

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Toyota MDT in MO

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