(OT) Moped.

Moped man, what is the proper oil to gasoline ratio should I use for my made in Germany 1976 Hercules Moped? It is a Westlake model moped, it has bicycle pedals on it.I haven't cranked it up in about fifteen years and I forget.It has a two stroke Sachs engine, either 48 cc or 50 cc, I think.Should I use syntetic oil in the gasoline, what is the best brand name and type of oil to use? I need to make a new transmission gasket for my moped.What is the best transmission fluid should I use? The old tires are dry rotted.I looked on the rear tire, it says,

2 - 17, underneath where it says 2 - 17 it says, 2.1 - 2.00 Who sells tires and tubes for mopeds? Thanks for any info. cuhulin
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cuhulin
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most mopeds run 50:1 ratio. I myself run 40:1 in all of my mopeds. Either is fine as long as its jettet properly. I use Amilie 2 cycle oil. IMO they are all about the same. the synthetics are more smokeless. Not sure what kind of trannie fluid it is supposed to take. Some take type F and some use gearoil/ or 10w30. Log onto Moped Riders Association go to the repair section. They has some manuals online. If they don't have yours just ask in one of the forums. You can also try

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Their are a few places to get tires online. I don't have a list of the off hand, and my internet is limited at my work (where I am now). I know 1977mopeds in Seattle sells tires/tubes, but their are a few tires dealers on the net that sell them too. You can also click on my homepage link and I have some moped supplies listed listed 3/4 down the page.
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Chas

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CEG

Thanks, CEG.I will write down the info and check out those sites.

My old Moped sat up so long the transmission gasket leaked the fluid out.I think I can buy new gasket material at auto parts stores, perhaps NAPA sells it, or some of the industrial supply stores around here.I have made a few gaskets before for some other things. cuhulin

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cuhulin

The thing about two-cycle oils is that they both lubricate and burn, so they are designed to burn with very, very low smoke. Traditional two-cycle oil is based on castor bean oil, and a lot of the ones you see on the market are still castor bean based.

There are also some petroleum and synthetic two-cycle oils out there.

Starting with a 40:1 ratio seems about reasonable. In addition to the mixture changing, if you use too much, it'll smoke, and if you use too little, you'll damage your engine from poor lubrication. Better to use too much than too little.

If you aren't running it a whole lot, I recommend the Stihl chainsaw oil, which is available at a reasonable price in little pre-measured bottles from Ace Hardware. Royal Purple makes a synthetic; I tried it in my lawnmower and it seemed fine but it didn't smell like burning castor oil. Summer is supposed to smell like freshly-cut grass and burnt castor oil.

Doesn't tirerack.com have some limited smaller tires available?

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

Yeah gasket material should work just fine. I've used gasket shallac in the past with good results too instead of gasket paper.

If you moped hasn't been run in that long, you'll also need to remove the carb and give it a thorough cleaning. I wouldn't be surprised if your condensor needs replacing as well (well if you don't have spark it will need replacing).

Also check your gas tank for corrosion. Hopefully you stored it dry and not full of fuel. :)

Chas

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CEG

That's why I run 40:1. I feel more comfortable running my mixture a bit richer.

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CEG
40:1 would be how much oil to a gallon of gas? cuhulin
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cuhulin

1/40 gallon... that's 3.2 ounces. Make it three and a quarter. That's why the premeasured bottles are so convenient.

--scott

Also.... the metric system makes this kind of thing much easier....

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Scott Dorsey

I am not going to be riding my Moped around, my reflexes aren't as good as they used to be.All I want to do is get it running good and then put it back in my storage shed. What about if I use a spray can of Gumout carburetor cleaner and spray some of that through the carburetor, assuming I get the engine running? cuhulin

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cuhulin

I bought my Moped in either 1990 or 1991.The elderly guy I bought it from had two 1976 Mopeds for sale, he bought them for his grand daughters to ride.But, they didn't care much for Mopeds.My red (the other Moped was blue, if I remember) Moped has only sixteen original miles on it.I think I probally put perhaps two miles on it.I have owned other Mopeds before, a Honda (the Honda had a four stroke engine) and a Vespa Ciao.I have also owned two Cushman Motor Scooters too and a Harley Davidson small Motorcycle that was made in Italy.

Last year, I hauled a lot of junk to the scrap iron yard.One of the things was a Honda Moped wheel that had an engine built into the wheel and two Rokon frames and three Rokon wheels.

I used to buy a lot of junk at the scrap iron yards around here.The city got on my arse and made me haul that junk off.At least, my back yard looks a little better nowadays. cuhulin, the junk dude

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cuhulin

I wouldn't. I'd take the carb apart and clean it with Gumout (or a bottle of Xylene) and q-tips. It is probably pretty nasty.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

If you want to see if the moped will run give it a shot or two of carb cleaner in the intake and see if it'll start. It'll only run for a second or two. Don't do it too often since carb cleaner doesn't have any lubricant in it. If it does run just give your carb a good cleaning along with your petcock/fuel tank and she'll probably fire right up. Then make sure you run the tank/carb dry for the long storage.

Chas

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CEG

I think my moped has an automatic shift two speed transmission.I need to make a new gasket for the transmission cover plate.Do you know what kind/type of transmission fluid I should use? Would the same kind of transmission fluid used in GM vehicles or Chrysler/Dodge vehicles work ok, GM or Chrysler/Dodge? cuhulin

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cuhulin

How about a make and model? All mopeds are NOT created equal.

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MasterBlaster

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1976 Hercules Westlake Moped mopedarmy.com

If you click on the Gallery at the top of the devilfinder.com site and then click on where it says, 1976 Mopet (Orange)

My Moped looks just like that one in the photo, it is a red color.It is a Westlake model.

Made in Germany in 1976.The metal plate on the front of the steering fork says, Hercules.Whatever kind of transmission it has, it is an automatic shift transmission. cuhulin

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cuhulin

Sorry, missed the original post with the make/model.

As you've likely discovered, Hercules is/was part of Sachs. And according to

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- The type of transmission fluid for the automatic engines used should

- be Type F automatic, filled to the bottom of the plastic screw on the

- transmission side of the engine. This screw is easily stripped or ruined

- but replacements are cheap and metal variants are available.

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MasterBlaster

Thanks, MasterBlaster.Transmission fluid, Type F.I will see if I can locate Type F.There are quite a few motorcycle shops/stores around here, I think some of them sell motor scooters, perhaps some mopeds too.Maybe they sell Type F. cuhulin

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cuhulin

I am pretty sure it takes Type F. I suspect you will find a lot of clogged gunk in there... I would give it a flush with naptha and then a couple flushes with Type F before a final fill.

I don't know about internal seals but I would bet any rubber parts are bad. Gaskets, for the most part, you can replace with the blue Permatex Make-a-Gasket stuff. It's not as adhesive as regular RTV so you can readily get stuff apart afterward.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

Type F is the kind for Ford transmissions. I think the new Dexron may now be type F compatible, but I would try and get the Ford stuff.

The gas/oil mix on the herc was 32:1 unless you are using synthetic, then 50:1 is ok. I will second the sthil oil, it mixes at 50:1, another make, Optimol is good.

I have used permatex form a gasket and RTV on the tranny case.

Mike

2000 Cherokee Sport 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build Photos:
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Mike Romain

My Moped has a lot of gunky rusty stuff inside of the gas tank.Moped frame is a unibody design, the gas tank is part of the frame.I am going to fix it up when Winter time gets here.I will buy a gallon of Must For Rust from

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and derust the gas tank.After I derust the gas tank, what is a good product I can use and pour inside of the gas tank that will keep it from rusting again? I will strip the Moped frame down first before I work on the gas tank. cuhulin

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cuhulin

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