The 10 least safe cars of all time

Tegger wrote in news:Xns9E4D52EBF2DF7tegger@

However, a Google search reveals that the Pinto was /never/ included in that mix. The 1971 model line all remained in one manual... except for the Pinto and Bobcat, which were in fact allowed their own books.

It may be that this was because the Pinto/Bobcat shared few parts and systems with any other Ford.

"Brent"

No it was a free replacement, but I did pay for the Pinto. The Bobcat cost me nothing, but was newer, and nicer.

Who on earth took out a loan on a car in that day and age? You must have been awful poor to have to assume everyone else needed car loans like you did LOL. I never financed any car until recently, and that's only because it no longer makes sense to pay cash.

BTW some day when you grow up, you may be lucky enough to have a large family of your own. If that ever happens you'll find in many instances you don't have to take care of business, because businesses take care of you. My family gets discounts automatically everywhere we shop as does every other large family that I know of in this area. Why? Simple, generations of business and more generations after that. Of course you still have to be able to afford a large family, so you'll probably never get there anyway.

Econo-cars

No, time and time again I've proved you are a liar, and a small person who can't stand when others get something you didn't. I know the truth, you don't, and you're too thick to see it.

Econo-cars

It wasn't a story it was a fact. Your jealousy has you making one lie after another while you desperately tried to disprove something you can't possibly disprove since it is the truth. Now you're just down in history as being a person who will go to any extremes to be right. Way to go moron.

Econo-cars

Sure you did, all of a sudden you think to mention that ROFL. You're one of these people who always have something in the attic for safe keeping, and nobody ever gets to see them. You're just a liar and you know it.

Econo-cars

Well the engines and drive train were basically from the Ford Escort sold in Europe at the time. Front suspension was pieced together from Maverick and Falcon parts. Interior and body were Pinto/Bobcat only.

The manual above was concerned with the domestic produced stuff.

The Mustang II shared some parts including the engine trans, front subframe and basic platform with the Pinto chassis. The engines started out being imported until Ford got production of the

LOL You just exposed his attempt at explaining away his lie of having the Pinto and Bobcat shop manuals. Brent you're really digging a deeper hole, just admit you lied.

Econo-cars

"Steve W." wrote in news:ie68ua$6uc$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

I should have said, "Any AMERICAN Ford". As far as Ford North America was concerned, the Pinto was a separate beast entirely.

But the Mustang II didn't come out until 1974. Plus you could get it with the 302, which you never could get in the Pinto/Bobcat.

I remember reading that Ford wanted the Pinto/Bobcat body to be able to take a V8 right from the beginning; that's why the transmission tunnel was so awfully big. It /really/ cut into interior room, and pushed the seats right up against the doors. Not a particularly comfortable car, I found.

The "Pinto" OHC I-4 is still popular in Britain.

Yeah...that would be GREAT to do this to...

YIKES!!!! SIXTY NINE DOLLARS?!?!?!

We used to throw the things away!!!!

Accepted :)

IP is real, defences are in place :)

Very true. I wonder just how many folks realize that "those evil imports" were helped a lot by the big three. Not just because they didn't jump on the compact bandwagon but in outright imports of their own.

Well not from the factory... It wasn't hard to drop one in though. I remember the kits for the V-8 in the Pinto and the kits to put them in Vegas.

Probably for the same reason the V-8 in the Monza wasn't a big success, engine torque made the chassis twist like a pretzel... BTDT. The Starfire I had ended up with a bit larger than stock alloy big block with a turbo on it. Was a bear to handle.

There are a few engines like that. That aluminum Buick v8 is one.

Yep, Scary what they go for. BUT the new ones have the full number of keys and either PS-2 or USB connections. Plus you still get replaceable key caps and all the good stuff. I wonder if they would make a wireless model?

"Econo-cars" wrote in news:ie674r$32f$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

Ha ha ha, that is a out and out lie. You could not have a duel dealership in the begining. you really should give up or at least have a semblence of truth to your rantings. KB

"Econo-cars" wrote in news:ie67j7$3vv$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

So far your the only one to beleive your story! Your dilousions are mildly entertaining anyway. KB

"Steve W." wrote in news:ie6h9l$o5j$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

You mean the RWD '60s Olds Starfire?

Hey, I test-drove something like that before I bought my Integra. It was a FWD Pontiac Sunbird/Sunfire/Sunburn or something like that, with an I-4 and a turbo. The first time I mashed the throttle at a light, the thing almost threw me into the ditch. Horrible torque-steer. You had to hold onto the steering wheel with a death-grip when the turbo kicked in.

They call that one the "Rover" V8; it's a British icon these days.

"Econo-cars" wrote in news:ie67qc$4fg$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

yea I am real worried your little rantings will brand me a "Great big fat liar" I am all tore up over your little smear campaign. Tear! NOT KB

Even on eBay they're going for $60-75!!!

They were good. I don't have any IBMs around, but I have some other 'clicky' keyboards around here.