96 Camry Starting issue

Hi all, TIA for the help you've all given in the past...good group of folks here

I have a 96 Camry LE sedan, 5S-FE 4cyl, Auto trans.

Lately i've had an intermittent issue with starting. On occasion, when I turn the key I get a metallic click like the starter wants to go, but wont. After a few more clicks it will eventually crank normally and start the engine fine. Kind of like there is a "bad spot" or something in the starter.

It is the OEM starter and I've never had any work done on it, is there some sort of "rebuild" kit that you can get for this? I rebuilt a starter on a different vehichle a long time ago and remember getting a kid with new brushes and things.

Or perhaps I should be looking elsewhere? Battery is relatively new, only 2 years old. Other than this the car works great...runs like a top.

Reply to
sbouffleur
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I have had issues with my Camrys/Sienna where it seemed something was wrong with mechanical components as you describe but it almost always ended up being the battery. Most auto parts stores will run an electrical test for free and inform you what the problem is. Perhaps that would be a good place to start. If it ends up being the starter that thing is really easy to replace, just make sure you get a replacement with the connectors on the same side as the original.

Reply to
badgolferman

Thanks...I will have the battery checked first. Is it better to just buy a rebuilt starter if I need one, or is it feasible/possible to rebuild on your own?

Reply to
sbouffleur

I have not rebuilt one myself so I cannot say.

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badgolferman

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I don't know how it works these days, but in the 90's when I was working on our Cressida, starter parts were hard to find. The Cressida had a problem similar to yours - sometimes there would be a click but no start. I took the starter solenoid apart and discovered that one of the copper bolts used as a terminal in the circuit that directed power to the actual starter motor had worn away (when the solenoid engaged the starter gear it also shorted across two terminals to send power to the motor). At that time, Toyota offered no parts for the starter, not even a replacement solenoid. Paying $500 for a new starter or pounding salt were the only Toyota approved choices. At that time none of the local parts stores carried a rebuilt starter for the Cressida, so I was not very happy. In desperation I wondered into a local auto electric rebuilder. I merely held up the worn bolt and told one of the workers something like - "I bet you don't know what this is." Amazingly he immediately identified it as a contact from a Toyota starter. I said something like "Wow, they must fail a lot." He laughed and said something like " Not really, that Toyota crap doesn't usually last long enough for that to fail"(I cleaned that up a bit). He then reached below the counter and gave me a new one - for free. Shortly thereafter the starter worked as good as new - which allowed me to get rid of the POS Cressida.

Ed

Reply to
C. E. White

I called our local toyota shop and they do sell a contact replacment kit...about 12 bucks and change. I found a couple sites on the web with pictures of the install..looks pretty simple actually. Still going to have the battery checked as golferman suggests

Reply to
sbouffleur

That is exactly what happened on my '97 Camry a couple of years ago. Mechanic said the armature of the starter had a "flat spot" in it, and replaced the starter. No more problems. In your case it may be the same, or possbily a problem with the solenoid.

Reply to
mack

I saw one as well:

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Too bad they didn't offer it in the early 1990s.

Ed

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C. E. White

I couldn't get one in the early 1990's. Toyotas were not so common then and I guess Toyota hadn't figured out the contacts were crap - at least when used by Americans. Interestingly, I have a Kubota tractor on my farm and a Kubota diesel lawn tractor - both had this exact same failure. Fortunately solenoids are available now - unfortunately I had to by the whole solenoid, the contacts were not easily replaceable.

Ed

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C. E. White

The symptoms you are describing are the classic symptoms for worn starter solenoid contacts as Ed White described. I would start there first.

Reply to
Ray O

You guys were spot on. I had the battery checked, which was fine. Pulled the starter and looked at the solenoid contacts and they were very worn...down to about 1/3 of the original thickness at the perimeter. I got the "rebuild" kit from our local toyota dealer...about 20 bucks. Put them in this afternoon and it seems to be all back to normal. Thanks for all the help once again!

Reply to
sbouffleur

You guys were spot on. I had the battery checked, which was fine. Pulled the starter and looked at the solenoid contacts and they were very worn...down to about 1/3 of the original thickness at the perimeter. I got the "rebuild" kit from our local toyota dealer...about 20 bucks. Put them in this afternoon and it seems to be all back to normal. Thanks for all the help once again!

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Ray O

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