Any way to keep the 12 v outlets ON on my Sienna?

If that doesn't work, I think the next step is to call Panduit or a local distributor. I can't believe they don't have an inexpensive tool with the right shaped teeth & grooves. This is nuts.

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JoeSpareBedroom
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in news:wmiBj.5866$ snipped-for-privacy@news01.roc.ny:

It's partly me, I'm sure.

Haven't got off my butt to...just...go get the damned thing.

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Tegger

"rich" scribblednews:ia0zj.11649$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net:

Uh, you might want to check that again. I left my spotlight plugged in on the back outlet for a long time, all the time, to recharge and keep a charge, and my battery after about a month, kept going down. A couple of times I had to jump start it.

I took it to Toyo and they happily gave me a new battery. As I opened my back lid to get some stuff out while I was waiting in service, I noticed the spotlight laying in the pocket their, in the dark, and the little red light on. My keyes were in my hand. Slow trickle discharge.

Oh well, a new battery. No charge,,,,,get it? no charge? He he

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Mad As Hell

My Corolla has two 12v outlets, one on the center console and the other inside the center storage compartment. BOTH are controlled by the key. As soon as I get the time, I'm going to add a third power outlet that will be hot all the time and mount it just to the left of the glove compartment. Why couldn't they have wired one of them hot?

This is just another example car manufacturers holding their customers in contempt. You're too stupid to turn your lights on at night all by yourself, so we'll put an auto-on feature on them and charge everyone for it.

You can't be trusted to turn off things you might plug into a power outlet so we'll take away the convenience of a 'hot all the time' outlet and control it with the key. That way, you won't run your battery down. Never mind the fact that you can't plug in a laptop with a dead battery and use it without running the engine.

Some people shouldn't be allowed out without a keeper, they're too dumb to notice a car coming toward them. So we'll put a "safety feature" on all our cars called Daytime Running Lights. "If it saves just one life, it's worth the billions of dollars it will cost you."

Jack (who, despite rumors to the contrary, isn't dumb)

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Retired VIP

Already happened. Somewhere in North Carolina, two kids die in a house fire. It's found that the reason was a Honda Pilot with a cell phone charger plugged in to the aux lighter outlet that was always hot on the Pilot.

It's foolish to override safety features, but it's easily done. If you simply must, at least fuse it and put in a toggle switch so you can turn it off when you're not near the vehicle. Then all you need is the brain cells to remember to turn it off.

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Gary L. Burnore

Brain cells like yours perhaps gary??

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dbu

I've obviously still got three or four more than you.

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Gary L. Burnore

I believe that the Sienna's accessory outlet is on a timer, where it stays hot for a few minutes after the ignition is turned off. See if the outlet is hot 10 or 15 minutes later.

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Ray O

Various manufacturer's have different ideas about this. My Fords all have always live 12V power points. My Nissan has one always live and two that are switched. A friend with a Buick discovered that you could change the switched outlet into an always live outlet by moving a fuse (not documented inthe owner's manual, but it was documented in the service manual).

Ed

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C. E. White

My experience is that American brand cars and trucks have 'hot' 12 outlets while off-shore brands have switched outlets. The distinction is starting to blur a bit with off-shore cars being branded and marketed as American brands. I don't think the reason for switched outlets because of legal worries, I think it is more along the lines of corporate culture.

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Retired VIP

There are instructions to make it always-on at "

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SMS

Well my SO's Chrysler Van had switched outlets. And so did my friends Buick, as delivered, but it could be changed. For sure the Toyota RAV4s have switched outlets. VW Jettas have always live outlets. I don't think you can say this is a domestic/import related choice, more just corporate culture as you also suggested. It does seem to me years ago, when power points were called cigarette lighters, they were mostly always live - but it was a long time ago.....

Ed

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C. E. White

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