Asian version vs US version

I doubt it. Besides ECU software, there are a number of other factors that affect horsepower, like method of measurement, fuel, intake runners, emissions equipment, and catalytic converter.

"EdV" ...

Get a load of a car GM thinks they will sell in 2010...

Is he kidding?! There was nothing rapid about the demand, it was just that domestic automakers were caught with their foresight down.

:-P

Natalie

Actually, the demand built up after the price of gas went up over the last two or three years. The demand for trucks from Toyota went up recently (or at least the supply), while the demand for money-making SUVs from the Michigan 3 went down. But the problem wasn't so much that demand for fuel-efficient autos went up but that the Michigan 3 neither had a reputation for fuel-efficient cars nor the ability to make many.

It was almost a foregone conclusion that this would happen, sooner or later (this being either the Toyota truck or the increase in gas prices

- your pick).

The US automakers did get caught with their pants down.

Wait until the Chinese really start selling their cars here.

GM knew how to make electric vehicles, EV1, but decided to stop production. I used to lived a few blocks away from their Burbank office where they kept the EV1s before finally crushing them. They dont want to make fuel efficient cars because they are friends with the oil companies = )

I agree with the emissions, US cars have emission equipment that reduce engine power so manufacturers have to use bigger engines that have lower mpg.

"Father Guido"... "Wickeddoll®"

Natalie

I can't remember the difference. My '85 Corolla GTS was rated 112 HP for the US and 128 for the rest of the world. The difference was, one version used a MAF, and the other used an AFM (I thik the Asian unit uses the AFM).

You *can* change it, but it means hacking the harness to do so.

Guido! Where ya been?!

I was only thinking of the Asian ECU software/modified ECU since it was available on ebay but maybe wouldn't work for me since the 2.4 Engine uses a 5spd with manual shift mode. And will void my cars warranty... Oh well thanks for the replies. I really don't need a faster car, but just wondering why.

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!

Like most right-wingers, they just want to "let the good times roll" up until the point that the s*it hits the fan.

I don't see how this has anything to do with right- or left-wing. IMHO, Ford, GM and Chrysler made some bad decisions about labor, product line-up, acquisitions and product development. One does not need to be democratic or republican to make bad decisions.

Jeff

You don't think most company higher-ups are right-wingers? You're delusional.

I didn't say that. However, being a right-winger or a left-winger or in the middle does not make one make bad decisions.

Jeff

And, if people in charge of companies are making bad decisions, perhaps it is because they aren't black, aren't Muslim or don't look good in plaid skirts. There are many attributes people in charge of companies share: being black, female or Muslim are three that are rather uncommon, at least in the US.

I really don't think their support of Bush, the color of their skin, their religion or their sex has much to do with whether or not people make bad decisions.

jeff

The Japanese market's 2.4L is supposed to use gasoline direct injection (GDI). Toyota had a license exchange agreement with Ford, so Ford uses the hybrid drive and Toyota uses Ford's GDI technology. Keeping it out of US cuts down on licensing fee I guess.

Maybe Toyota is trying to keep the cost down in the US. So we get some cheap crap coming over compared even to Malaysia.

The gas prices in the past years clearly drove demand for smaller, more fuel efficient cars. I look forward to GM/BMW's two-mode hybrid system with cylinder deactivation technology. You can test one riding on buses in 40 US cities already operating for the past 5 years or so.

GM had a $5000 legacy cost per car from decades of adversarial relationship with the UAW. So a lot of the money wasn't going into cars but to jobs banks, kids college tuition, etc. But I am impressed with the turnaround in the past year. Before that I wouldn't drive past a GM lot.

Welcome to the wonders of international units, US HP and UK HP and International HP are all different things (Depended on how big the local horse was). If you look at the kilowatt values they should be almost identical, mind you it also depends on what grade of fuel the car is meant to run on too. You could get the Malaysia spec computer and put on you car but you may not have a motor for long unless you use suitable fuel. Subaru learnt the hard way about that, They brought Jab spec 22B WRX's into OZ without detuning them but forgot that they are meant to run on