Charles of Kankakee

You know if it were not for the US sending men to the moon, you and me, and and a lot of others would be dead now? That is why the 'tools' to do micro surgery were developed

Hopeful you will have quick recovery a long life ahead of you. I had triple bypass surgery when it was fairly new procedure, 29 year ago. I was under for nearly seven hours, five on the heart lung machine. It took me nearly three months to get back to normal and I had not had a heart attack or any heart damage. I was 50 years old, I'm 79 now and still going strong, walking five miles a day. Most of my male relative were dead by the age of 75.

I had to go almost 1,000 miles, all the way to Milwaukee WI, to find a young Dr. Frank Cummings to have the surgery performed. It cost me over $175,000. My insurance would not cover it because it was experimental surgery back then. Today it is routine in most every hospital and the don't need to stop the heart, just slow it down to five beats a minute

mike hunt

"Charles @ Kankakee" wrote:

No one that I know of is disputing that, "Mike", as I've pointed-out to you on many occasions. Your repeating this lie proves that you're simply a troll.

Oh, it's "part of that war", all right, and it seems to be making things worse for our side.

Simply another bald-faced lie, as is typical from the right. We just want what's best for our country and the world. We recognize that the Iraq debacle is a massive waste of resources and lives that could be vastly better utilized.

Yes, it is sad that Bush was so bent on "getting Saddam" that he dishonestly pushed us into invading Iraq.

Well, we're still a little behind the curve. They still actually stop the heart for an hour or so here. There is a new robotic surgery that requires half the time for recovery they are working on but I don't qualify.

Charles of Kankakee

Precisely...it IS for the public good for a nation to pull together, especially in times of national emergency. I have no doubt that the debacle in Viet Nam was directly the responsibility of traitors like Hanoi Jane. There's plenty of time AFTER A WAR IS WON for the historians to sort out the b.s. from the truth, but NOT during hostilities. Doing it then simply demoralizes the troups, playing INTO the enemies' hands.

The LIEbrawl Left's traitorous whining and moaning is DIRECTLY responsible for thousands of casualties, both Allied and Iraqi.

They are trying to learn how to do better surgery. They have been working in this area on 'less-invasive' technicques for several years. They find the body gets back to normal faster, and healing progresses a lot faster than it used to. Less chance of 'losing the patient'. The operation was a success, but the patient died is not a phrase they like to hear around here for some reason. (That actually happened to my grandfather, BTW. He had an ulcer burst on July 1. They 'saved' his life with emergency surgery, but his kidneys shut down and he died on July 3 back 45 years ago or so. )

Sort of like when working on a car. You don't want to have to disassemble the entire front of the car to work on the motor. You want to get in, get it done right, get out, without having to put together 1,367 other parts afterwards. (Remember the 70's Monza?) When it is not necessary to disassemble a component, it is necessary not to disassemble a component..

Charles of Kankakee

Needed it. This weekend we were having a bit of BP problems. We seem to have got her all sorted out. Still a lot of steps to go, but at least now we can make steps. A car who's motor doesn't run too well can't get very far without a tow truck.

Charles of Kankakee

Thank you.

I think you need a little age on your frame and you might see things differently. Get out of them Blue states a while and start asking inteligent questions of your own point of view. I did when I was younger. Some of the answers will prove quite painful. I had to eat a lot of crow as I got older and started getting away from what I had been taught and started finding my own answers. That run-in with my distant cousins at 13 was just the beginning of a long journey. Had I not already known what John Birch was, I might have let it slide entirely. But I have this really bad habit of calling to account those who lie like that and expect me to believe it because they said it, especially when they think they are over you and better than you are. This relative was in my class at school in those days and he thought that because I was an 'outsider' born in Chicago, I was no good and stupid etc. (I have my grade cards for those years *somewhere*, you can see I was not as stupid as he made out.)

The one thing that saddens me is this 'relative truth' business. There are facts that are immutable facts. Gravity pulls down, everywhere, at all times. If you cut yourself with a knife, you're gonna bleed. Stick your hand in a fire and it's gonna get cripsy real fast. You can believe something else, but it doesn't alter the truth. What are your core truths?

1. God Is. God is the First Cause, Prime Mover, the Greatest. All of the Time. Despite man's petty religions trying to paint Him in a box not of His own making.

1. Despite man's best efforts, Rule #1 still apples.

2. There will be a test afterward.

"When Adam delved and Eve spann, who was then the gentleman?"

Charles of Kankakee

Thanks for supporting what I have said, DIZZY. You help me prove the point that the nitwits that still do not understand we are at war with all of the radical Islamic extremist. They are trying to convince the rest of the nitwits that Iraq is not part of the war on radical Islamic terrorist for political gain. LOL

mike hunt

dizzy wrote:

No, I directly agreed with that specific point, as anyone who can read can see, and I seriously doubt that you can quote anyone from this group disagreeing with that specific point.

In other words, you LIED again, "Mike".

I wrote 'Oh, it's "part of that war", all right', and I seriously doubt that you can quote anyone from this group claiming that Iraq "is not part of" that war (however ill-advised and counter-productive).

Lying again, "Mike"?

You are a bald-face liar, "Mike". LOL

Typical right-wing bald-faced lie.

Do you mean bold face?

mike hunt

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