No Wonder...then what good is BioFuel?

What are the EXACT reasons for diesel cars being banned in your state?

In message news:xhSLh.5134$ snipped-for-privacy@news01.roc.ny, JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following:

Environuts demanding another symbolic head on a pike.

You live in a small state with a lot of cars. Strict standards are a reasonable way of keeping the air clean. The Feds, thanks to the Ray-Guns and Bush-league administrations, have been dragging their feet over emissions controls for years. States with air quality problems have had to act on their own.

Twenty years ago, the air in Boston tasted like gasoline. The last time I was there, the air quality - or at least the taste - had improved tremendously.

Go thank an environut.

In message news:4600087f$0$16318$ snipped-for-privacy@free.teranews.com, DH sprach forth the following:

It's all trapped in the Big Dig. Expect mutant rats to take over the city within 10 years. Oh wait - the voters already PUT mutant rats in charge.

In message news:xhSLh.5134$ snipped-for-privacy@news01.roc.ny, JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following:

Maybe we need to get the blind to lobby FOR diesel cars, since they're complaining about electric and hybrid cars for being too quiet.

Simple. I didn't say "Particulates". The particulates count is higher.

You know, if I didn't know better, I'd say JSB is a Masshole. But if I remember correctlly, he lives in the Peoples Soviet Socialist Respublik of Ohio.

Now that we are required to only sell the cleaner burning diesel in the US as of last fall, a lot of diesels should be a lot closer to meeting emissions. But they still won't let them in. Can you imagine a Prius with a little bitty diesel engine?

Charles of Schaumburg

In message news:X5ednfH5JZ5xGZ3bnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com, n5hsr sprach forth the following:

Lose the "M".

Yes, I can...

Correct. I misread that. You said "fewer pollutants".

Why are they banned? Certainly not just because some pols could get away with banning diesels.

What are the real reasons?

Good question. It must be the particulate count they are looking at.

Hey, we're talking a legislature here that requires all residents of the state to have healthcare, will penalize them on their taxes if they don't get coverage, and then offers them no good solution to the problem if they can't afford it.

You made a very dangerous assumption: that they have brains...

Health care has nothing to do with this issue. And, I don't understand how you can make negative comments about something you understand not at all.

A modern diesel engine can produce very little pollutants such as NOx and HC levels but depending on the fuel available to them they will still produce higher levels of particulates and SOx. It is the levels of SOx and Particulates that is the main reason for the cars not meeting California air laws. The SOx issues can be fixed by using low sulfur fuels ~15ppm S (where as the current STD in the US ~500ppm S if I remember correctly). The diesel particulate is 90% carbon like a very fine powder of activated carbon, however in the diesels case the particulates adsorb things like soluble hydrocarbons and PAH's. The PAH's are cancer causing compounds. The solution lies in the car manufactures and in the laws of the state. The cars need to be fitted with diesel catalytic converters and particle filters in the exhaust system very close to the motor, and the state need to set by law only the sale of ultra low sulfur fuels and well as mandated maintenance if the emissions system of the diesel cars. If done correctly there is no reason why the diesel car should not be available through out the US.

Thank you.

No, but the same idiots that passed the mandatory health care laws also passed the no diesel cars sales laws. An idiot is an idiot, and this is what we have in charge here in Mass. That much I understand plenty.

Hey, that's what I said when I said High Paritculates! I just wasn't as verbose as Nick!

Hey! That's what *I* said! Um, just not so many words! ;)

(Thanks for explaining it better, Nick! )

You didn't say jack shit.

To paraphrase Douglas Adams. Anyone who is capable of getting themselves into politics, should on no account be allowed to do the job.