RAV4 or Element ?

Either one is decent. Follow the maintenance and you'll have no problem with either.

Oh, and the Element is UGLY, but if you can get it with a 5-speed...

So you want arguments towards the RAV4, eh? Let me try:

1) The RAV4 is quieter on the road, especially on broken pavement and freeway speeds. I've test driven both back to back. 2) The RAV4 is quicker and handles better. 3) Parts and maintenance are cheaper. For example, you can replace the cabin filter yourself on the RAV4. The CRV requires the dash to be taken apart by the dealer. 4) The RAV4 is standard with an MP3 player and an AUX input. The CRV has an AUX player input only. 5) Auto-off headlights. 6) Better fuel economy. 7) Available with a powerful V6 and 3rd row seating. 8) Available with a moonroof even on the base models. 9) Longer wheelbase and higher ground clearance while having a shorter turning radius. 10) Better long-term reliability.

Would that suffice?

I had to google pictures of Honda's Element : unknown here in Europe... and it's not really a beauty! What a pity you can't get a RAV4 like mine : six (yes, six) speed gear box linked to a 2.2 lt diesel engine delivering a gorgeous 400 Nm torque at 2000-2600 rev/min. Simply amazing... Regards OM.

"Ron" a écrit dans le message de news: m_RLh.4661$742.891@trndny07...

The diesels coming to the US soon will not the the city-choking variety common overseas.