AFAIK, none of Toyota's hybrid batteries are failing including the
first generation Prius. Although the batteries are lasting a lot
longer than expected, I haven't heard any educated guesses re. just
how long they will go. Clearly over 100,000 miles but how much over is
anyone's guess. A 4 cylinder Camry will be cheaper to operate over the
long haul but a Hybrid Camry allows you to send a one-fingered salute
to the mulahs. It's your money...
That is why they say "If you think health care is expensive, wait until its
Hybrids are hype. The premium you pay for the technology can buy one
helluva lot of gas over the years and you'll only get payback after 100,000
miles plus. If you want fuel savings, buy a 250cc motorcycle for less than
$5000 and get 70 mpg.
As opposed to SUV hype, designed to get folks into high profit
vehicles rather than more practical minivans with lower profit
margins? It's all hype. Hybrids aren't special in that regard.
The premium you pay for the technology can buy one
Yeah, I agree. Hybrids are still more political statements than
economy cars for the masses. Still, they demonstrate to the mulahs
that the American economy is strong enough support these fuel saving
vehicles in ever increasing numbers.
and you'll only get payback after 100,000
This is not true. Payback varies with usage. In-town users get faster
payback than highway drivers. Of course once the battery pack goes TU,
there goes the payback.
Also, nearly everyone I know who owns a Toyota Hybrid uses the
dashboard display to help them achieve high mpg. They all modify their
driving habits to increase mpg.
If you want fuel savings, buy a 250cc motorcycle for less than
I can say that with some certainty because the initial purchase price
of a Camry Hybrid is MUCH more than a 4 cylinder Camry and I have
confidence in the lack of leadership in Washington - they'll do
nothing to raise taxes on gasoline in order to reduce fuel
consumption. Adjusted for inflation our current gas prices aren't all
that bad. And a 4 cylinder Camry is one of the least expensive cars to
operate whereas a replacement battery pack for the hybrid will cost a
I used my time machine and discovered that the batteries lasted 9.56 years
We have a honda hybrid. I bought a 8 years 120k mile warranty for $1100 for
the 2005 Accord hybrid. When I sell it in 6 or 7 years, the extended
warranty will make the car very easy to sell in my experience. That factor
is ignored by the magazines that tell you not to buy extended warranties on
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