interesting way to change transmission fluid

Feb 03, 2006 13 Replies

What do y'all think of this method? Is this as thorough as draining the tranny pan?


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Another system for changing automatic transmission fluid James Dement provided the following:


Here is a simple way to change the transmission fluid in your Chrysler that doesn't even require you to crawl under the vehicle.


I learned that I can use about 6 or 8 ft. of clear vinyl tubing - probably only 1/8" or 3/16" ID. The type of low cost tubing you can get at your local home improvement or hardware store. What I've been using is actually the leftover home oxygen supply line from my late Aunt who had to use oxygen in her last year. She left us an abundant supply of this tubing. As for her nice Chrysler - darn it, that is another story......


I stick the clean tubing all the way down into the dip stick opening until it clearly is on bottom. Then I start a siphon by sucking on the tubing. You can easily see the reddish colored fluid moving up the tubing and towards you. When the fluid gets a few inches from the end you simply place the end into your container and the siphon action will do the rest.


I've done this on my Grand Caravan (A604) twice now and a relative's Dodge Shadow. If you are a reader of this site you already know which fluid you should be using - so pay the extra $1 per quart and use it.


Last year I got 4 qrts. out before the fluid stopped flowing. This year I got out 6+ quarts of fluid in total. I think I could have gotten more if I'd wanted to. Of course this method doesn't address the filter inside the pan. Next time I will do the traditional change and replace the filter as well. But for those of us who have been through the rebuilding process once (or twice) and have started to change our fluid more often, this is a convenient way to change the fluid without getting under the vehicle.


It will take all night and maybe a full 24 hrs. It is sort of like watching grass grow so don't waste time watching just check on it a couple of times during the day to make sure it is still flowing. When it stops you can easily tell from looking at the clear tubing. If the siphon stops after 3 or 4 quarts, I've found if you reposition the tubing and start again you may get another quart or two. Also, don't let the container you're going into with the old fluid get too high or the siphon could slow.


Try this if you've been putting off changing that transmission fluid. It takes only a few dollars of tubing, little time to start and only a few minutes of clean up. Do take that old fluid to a recycle center for proper disposal.

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I think I might give this a shot, next time I change my engine oil. I've got a small 12VDC windshield fluid pump I bought for a project a few years ago... maybe I can use that to suck on the 1/8" vinyl tubing line, to reduce the wait. I'll have to run over to Wal-Mart and get some 1/8" fish tank air line.

My Haynes says there's only about 2.6 qt. of tranny oil in the

4-cylinder 96 camry. Any thoughts on hazards of doing this? Tranny fluid changeout should be done with the car off, but with the engine warm, right? (This wouldn't melt my vinyl tubing, would it?) Then, when re-filling with Dexron-II, start the engine and move the gearshift lever slowly all the way to "L", right?

It's only been about 22,000 miles since I had the tranny oil flushed (at a Brake Masters shop), but hey, I'm trying to learn more as I go.

There is a reason there are magnets and filters in the bottom of a trans, can you hacks, guys figure it out.

Yes, and I'd hope the magnets do their job while the car is running...

For a quick flush/change, is the above method not recommended?

I don't know if this is the best way to change trans fluid, madman. Siphoning engine oil is one thing, but the major difference here is that an oil pan has nothing but oil in it, but a transmission pan has the valve body, wire connectors, and a filter. I don't know that a tube of any appreciable diameter will be able to get to the bottom of the pan through the dipstick tube. Some transmission dipsticks don't even go into the pan, the pan is so shallow and filled with the valve body etc, that the measured fluid is actually inside the tube itself. Anyway, I would go with the standard drain on this one. That also gives you the opportunity to clean the filter and magnets. Then while you have the pan off try seeing where the dipstick comes into the valve body, see if you have enough room for that tube next time. Just my opinion, and kudos for getting into stuff on your own, too.

I've started changing transmission oil myself instead of going to the dealer. I've only drained the oil from the bottom of the pan without removing the filter to clean it. I've decided to double the frequency of changing the transmission oil to compensate for cleaning the filter. Does any body think there is problem with this?

Thanks

If your tranny is in good shape then it should keep working for you just fine. Most "filters" are just screen anyway - if you know what yours is you can figure out if it needs changing. I say let the screen sit there - they generally will pass a bowling ball anyway.

Draining the pan from the plug on the pan is a 5 minute job, you dont even need to lift the car up at all. I do this every 10-15000m. The filter is not cleanable you must replace it as it traps comtaminents inside it, that should be done at the recomended interval as well with cleaning the magnets and the pan itself. An example, on several 10f mornings my car would not go into reverse , knowing my fluid was only

5000 old, and filter 20000, I hesitated but had no other choise but to get the pan dropped and put in a new filter. Well the filter was clean, but new oil and filter fixed the issue and that was 4 years ago. Point is any contamination, even unseen, can disrupt oilflow. Siphoning never gets Bottom of pan sludge, do it right or excessive wear particles can mess it up bad.

I've called Toyota service, the guy said there is no filter to clean, they just replace the transmission fluid. Is this correct? Also, do you need to change the differential fluid at the same time as the transmission fluid? By the way, mine is a 2000 Camry V6.

Thanks.

Yes, that is correct. There is a strainer, but that doesn't normally need servicing.

On your 2000 Camry V6, the transmission and differential share the same fluid and the one drain and one filler takes care of both.

Note that a simple drain only drains about 1/3 (I believe) of the total fluid; the remainder is trapped in the transmission. If your fluid is really dirty, you need to flush the transmission, ie, cycle fluid through the transmission until it runs clean. My dealer charges $160 for a transmission flush.

Merritt

Is there a drain plug gasket for the transmission (95 & 99 Camry LE 4 Cyl auto) like there is for the oil pan ?

I'd like to have a new one on hand, if necessary, before starting the job here at home :-)

Thanks

I don't remember seeing a drain plug gasket. You might need a "Rapid Grip Pipe Wrench" though to help you twist the 10mm Allen wrench. The nut is on tight.

The pipe wrench is handy to have around the house anyway. Got mine from Home Depot awhile back.

I don't think there is. There wasn't one on our '93 when I pulled the plug the first time. They may come from the factory like that. I picked up a few spares at the dealer for about $.60 each, IIRC. They are metal and appear to be aluminum. I torqued it to 36 ft/lbs per the manual. FWIW YMMV

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