long term reliability

Oct 29, 2004 8 Replies

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web site has long term reliability rank as shown below. How credible is this rank?


  1. Chevrolet Malibu
  2. Lexus RX 330
  3. Lexus LX 470
  4. Toyota 4Runner
  5. Chevrolet Tahoe
  6. Lexus GS Sedan
  7. Honda S2000
  8. GMC Sierra 2500HD/3500
  9. Buick Century
  10. Lexus LS 430
  11. Toyota Avalon
  12. Honda Odyssey
  13. Honda CR-V
  14. Ford Ranger
  15. Ford Ranger extended cab
  16. Lincoln Town Car
  17. Mercury Grand Marquis
  18. Ford F-150 Light Duty
  19. Buick Regal
  20. Toyota Highlander
  21. Toyota Corolla
  22. Ford E-Series
  23. Honda Accord Coupe
  24. Honda Accord Sedan
  25. Ford F-150 Light Duty ext. cab
  26. Ford F-150 Supercrew
  27. Ford Crown Victoria
  28. Chrysler Concorde
  29. Nissan Altima
  30. Acura RSX
  31. Lexus ES 330
  32. Mazda Miata
  33. Porsche 911
  34. Chevrolet Express
  35. GMC Yukon
  36. GMC Yukon XL
  37. Chevrolet Suburban
  38. Toyota Prius
  39. Oldsmobile Silhouette
  40. Buick Lesabre
  41. Toyota Sienna
  42. Chevrolet Corvette
  43. Toyota Sequoia
  44. Toyota RAV4
  45. Cadillac DeVille
  46. GMC Sonoma extended cab
  47. GMC Sonoma
  48. Buick Park Avenue
  49. Dodge Caravan
  50. Pontiac Montana
  51. Toyota Tundra
  52. Dodge Grand Caravan
  53. Ford Excursion
  54. Toyota Camry
  55. Toyota Camry Solara
  56. Chevrolet Impala
  57. Mercury Sable
  58. Chevrolet Silverado 1500/2500
  59. Chevrolet Silverado 1500/2500 ext. cab
  60. Acura RL
  61. GMC Sierra 1500/2500
  62. GMC Sierra 1500/2500 ext. cab
  63. Chevrolet S-10 Pickup
  64. Chevrolet S-10 Pickup extended cab
  65. Acura TL
  66. Mazda MPV
  67. Dodge Intrepid
  68. Chevrolet Tracker 2-door
  69. Chevrolet Tracker 4-door
  70. Porsche Boxster
  71. Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class
  72. Audi TT
  73. Hyundai Sonata
  74. Ford Mustang
  75. Ford Mustang convertible
  76. Pontiac Grand Am Coupe
  77. Pontiac Grand Am Sedan
  78. Dodge Stratus Coupe
  79. Ford Explorer Sport Trac
  80. Dodge Ram Pickup 2500/3500
  81. Chevrolet Monte Carlo
  82. Subaru Forester
  83. Toyota Celica
  84. Ford Escape
  85. Chrysler Town & Country
  86. Dodge Ram Pickup 1500
  87. Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4-door
  88. Honda Civic Coupe
  89. Honda Civic Sedan
  90. Cadillac Seville
  91. Pontiac Bonneville
  92. Pontiac Sunfire 2-dr
  93. Pontiac Sunfire 4-dr
  94. Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD/3500
  95. BMW 5 Series Sedan
  96. BMW 7 Series
  97. Jaguar XJ
  98. BMW X5
  99. Dodge Durango

100. Mercedes-Benz E-Class
101. Lincoln Navigator
102. Pontiac Grand Prix Coupe
103. Pontiac Grand Prix Sedan
104. Audi A4/S4
105. Lincoln LS
106. Toyota Tacoma
107. Mazda Tribute
108. Nissan Frontier
109. Nissan Frontier 4-door
110. Nissan Frontier extended cab
111. Lexus IS 300/IS 300 SportCross
112. Dodge Dakota 4-door
113. Dodge Dakota extended cab
114. Mercury Mountaineer
115. Ford Expedition
116. Chevrolet Venture
117. Acura MDX
118. Audi A6
119. Chrysler PT Cruiser
120. Jeep Wrangler
121. Saturn LW Wagon
122. Chevrolet Cavalier Coupe
123. Chevrolet Cavalier Sedan
124. Subaru Outback Sport
125. Chrysler 300M
126. Subaru Legacy
127. Subaru Outback
128. Ford Taurus
129. Chevrolet Blazer
130. Ford F-250/F-350
131. Nissan Sentra
132. Saturn LS Sedan
133. Nissan Maxima
134. BMW 3 Series Convertible
135. BMW 3 Series Coupe
136. BMW 3 Series Sport Wagon
137. BMW 3 Series Sedan
138. Nissan Quest
139. Mazda 6
140. Volkswagen Passat
141. Saab 9-5 Sedan/Wagon
142. Mercedes-Benz S-Class
143. Saab 9-3 Sedan
144. Saab 9-3 Cpe/Conv
145. Jeep Grand Cherokee
146. Chrysler Sebring Sedan
147. Dodge Stratus Sedan
148. Chrysler Sebring Convertible
149. Ford Explorer
150. Ford Explorer Sport
151. Suzuki Vitara/GrandVitara
152. Chrysler SebringCpe
153. Oldsmobile Bravada
154. Nissan Pathfinder
155. Mazda B-Series
156. Pontiac Aztek (4x2)
157. Pontiac Aztek (4x4)
158. Volkswagen Jetta
159. Volkswagen Beetle
160. Oldsmobile Alero 2-door
161. Oldsmobile Alero 4-door
162. Hyundai Santa Fe
163. Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class
164. Jaguar S-Type
165. Mercedes-Benz M-Class
166. Hyundai Accent Coupe
167. Hyundai Accent Sedan
168. Hyundai XG350
169. Mercedes-Benz C-Class
170. Hyundai Tiburon
171. Kia Sorento
172. Volvo S80
173. Mitsubishi Galant
174. Volvo V70
175. Volvo C70
176. Kia Optima
177. Suzuki XL-7
178. Hyundai Elantra
179. Volvo S60
180. Dodge Neon
181. Ford Focus 2-door
182. Ford Focus 4-door
183. Volvo S40
184. Volvo V40
185. Audi allroad quattro
186. Subaru Impreza
187. Nissan Xterra
188. Kia Rio
189. Chevrolet Astro
190. Volkswagen GTI
191. Mitsubishi Eclipse
192. Volkswagen Golf
193. Isuzu Rodeo Your top priority: LONG-TERM DEPENDABILITY The vehicles below have no long-term dependability data. ?. Cadillac Escalade EXT ?. Honda Element ?. Lexus SC 430 ?. Ford Thunderbird ?. Chevrolet Colorado ?. Lexus GX 470 ?. Cadillac Escalade/Escalade ESV ?. Cadillac XLR ?. Land Rover Range Rover ?. Nissan 350Z ?. Mercury Monterey ?. Chrysler Crossfire ?. Acura TSX ?. Volvo XC70 ?. Audi A8 ?. Chrysler Pacifica ?. Infiniti I35 ?. Buick Rendezvous ?. Ford Freestar ?. Honda Pilot ?. Pontiac Vibe ?. MINI Cooper ?. Nissan Murano ?. Infiniti FX-Series ?. Nissan Pathfinder Armada ?. Saturn VUE ?. Cadillac CTS ?. Nissan Titan ?. Volvo XC90 ?. Mitsubishi Outlander ?. Buick Rainier ?. Chevrolet Avalanche ?. Lincoln Aviator ?. Suzuki Verona ?. Scion xB ?. GMC Envoy ?. Saturn ION ?. Toyota Matrix ?. Chevrolet TrailBlazer ?. Mercury Marauder ?. Mazda 3 ?. Infiniti G35 ?. HUMMER H2 ?. Mercedes-Benz SL-Class ?. Jeep Liberty ?. Dodge SRT-4 ?. Jaguar X-Type ?. Mitsubishi Endeavor ?. Mazda RX-8 ?. Scion xA ?. Kia Spectra ?. Kia Sedona ?. Chevrolet Equinox ?. Chrysler 300Series ?. Subaru Baja ?. GMC Savana ?. Pontiac GTO ?. BMW Z4 ?. GMC Canyon ?. BMW 6 Series ?. Kia Amanti ?. Land Rover Freelander ?. Mitsubishi Lancer/LancerSportback ?. Isuzu Ascender ?. Chevrolet Aveo ?. Suzuki Aerio/AerioSX

In my experience... not at all!

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Having the Malibu ranked at #1 seems a little optimistic in my opinion, the other top 10 seems to make some sense. I always thought these rankings were contradictory as they seem to ignore branding...isn't the LX 470 a rebadged Toy Land Cruiser with better trim and options??

Take a look at these comments on what are likely out of warranty Malibus, I certainly hope they've fixed the bugs by now:

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NM, the Land Crusier isn't listed in there at all so that comparison doesn't work.

It does have the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis listed as 17/27. Are they still building both these models in Canada?

As creditable as it can be, some american cars are alot better now, but in 1 yr it can change alot.

Not even close. A Chevy in first place? Give me a break!

I was watching the Malibu group for a while. Only significant complaint was strut noise, just like many years of Camry's.

It's easy to tell that they're smoking something at J.D. Powers. The Malibu can't get the best at long-term reliability. Look at this website:

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If Powers and Associates are going to smoke something, they need to pass it around to those they wish to believe their canards.

Chevy still has the most percentage of cars on the road since production, based on owner registration (according to one of their ads).

But I think the JD Powers long term reliability means the number of problems found at 3 years. So I too am surprised by Malibu's ranking as #1. I am looking to buy a car towards the end of the year, and while the GM Epislon platform received very good ratings for a family sedan, I never thought of looking at the Malibu (based on the Epislon platform) because of GM's history. But that could change.

Another surprise is that the Camry hasn't even shown up in the top 40. What's going on? I heard about Camrys having problems since the cost reduction started in 1997, but I would think it ranked at least better than the Altimas, which were gaining sales lately while having production problems in the new US plant.

But JD Powers is an authority in these rankings, so who knows. At least the Lexus ranked higher than their Toyota counterparts. So they got those right.

John

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