Latest Mis-Leading Tundra Commercial

Has anyone notice the snap shot in the new Tundra Commercial? In the commercial a contractor talks about when he started out 7 years ago he
needed a dependable truck and bought a Tundra (this in itself is misleading - I doubt if 1 in a 100 contractor considered a Tunda in 2002). He shows a snap shot of his "first" Tundra. The snap shot is of a current body style Tundra, not the version from 7 years ago. Was this a deliberate attempt to mislead people, or just another bad choice by the clueless idiots that do Tundra commercials? I don't think any vehicle has ever been promoted with so many obviously misleading ads. No matter how good or bad the current Tundra may be, the ads suck.
Ed
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C. E. White wrote:

The only contractor I've used had a Tundra of that era. He still has it with nearly 300K miles on it. His feeling is that it's better to spend a little more for a truck that will not need replacing every few years, but it's true that the Tundra cost more than your standard Ford, Chevy, or Dodge truck.
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Really? If anyone actually wanted a Tundra they could have had their pick at the Manheim Auto Auctions for as low as $25,000 just last month.
I don't know were you live but I'm sure if you look around and you will see plenty of twenty year old F150's still running on the roadways. One old Tundra is an oddity ;)

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Those used Tundras being auctioned - were they previously owned by people who used them for work, or people who bought trucks "just because", and gas prices slapped them back to sanity?

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They were brand new never titled, sold by a Toyota distributer, at general auction dummy. Domestics can not do that they can only sell new vehicles to their franchised dealerships.

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the oddity is finding very many eight to ten year old F150's running the roads

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By "toughness", do you mean the ability to withstand use by professionals who beat the crap out of a truck, like masons, carpenters, etc?
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

by toughness, they meant the ability to withstand the use by a teenage son in highschool who did not know how to treat a vehicle. That, in my opinion, gave it the name "ford tough". That statement came from a Yota fan.
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Check the latest numbers....
For September 2009 Tundra sales were down 21.3% compared to Sept 2008 (6,308 vs 7,696). For 2009 year to date (end of September) Tundra sales were down 50.6% (56,599 vs 115, 026). That doesn't seem like the Tundra is hitting it stride any more....
For September 2009 F Series Sales were UP 3.5 percent campared to Sept 2009 (33,877 vs 32,727). For 2009 year to date (end of September) F Series sales were down 24.8% (295,426 vs 392,698).
Toyota can spin things any way they want, but the facts are clear - the Tundra is huge flop. Billion down the tube on an oversized poorly designed pig of a truck. They took a decent design and turned it into a bad clone of a Silverado. I suppose you might argue that it is about as good as a Titan, but when the debate is whether your truck is the fourth or fifth best large pickup in the US, you should just stamp loser on the taillgate and go back to building vehicles you understand. At least they still have the Tacoma to give them some credibility in the pickup world. The Tundra is just a bad joke.
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You problem is so typical of the people who engage in similar diatribes. Yeah your 20 year old Ford may be great for hauling 15,000 pounds of hot horse shit around but there are other uses for trucks aren't there? I'd like to see your 20 year old Ford try to shoehorn itself down (or up) some of the mountain goat trails we have here in AZ. I can tell you right now your 20 year old Ford wouldn't get ten feet down half of them. Too wide. Too tall. Too heavy. Fine for hauling all that horse shit but not a capable offroad vehicle.
BTW, does Ford market their trucks as "light duty" like GM does (or at least did), meaning great for parking lot posing but not good for anything else......
Gotta love that Amerikan customer service, too. If there's a frame rust issue with Tacomas, Toyota extends the warranty and offers a decent buy back. What would GM or Ford do? Let you watch it rust in your drive way. And don't tell me Amerikan made vehicles don't rust. You'll get your ass laughed off the Internet.
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Duh, what are trucks for if not for hauling? For me personally, turning some beat to crap Tacoma into a rock crawler is a waste of time and money. Seems like a good way to ruin a truck to me.
And you don't want to get me started on jerks who use their cool off road play toys to tear up other peoples land. I assume you are crawling over rocks on public land where it is permitted and I could care less. But I get tired of idiot boys in their reduced function trucks deciding my fields are the perfect proving grounds for their useless junk.

Ths its total BS. Toyota fights recalls tooth and nail . The usual Toyota reaction to a design / manufacturing screw ups is to 1) deny there is a problem, 2) when presented with evidence of a massive problem, claim the data is wrong, 3) lie about the cause of the problem, 4) blame the Customer, 5) lie some more, 6) blame the Customer again, 7) just before NHTSA is set to issue a mandatory recall, announce a "voluntary" recall, but say it is really the Customers fault and they are only doing it becasue they are so nice, 8) if necessary, blame a supplier.
Look at the history of the truck ball joint recall, or this latest floor mat thing, or the rusting frame problem, or the engine sludge problem. Toyota PR spends more time blaiming Customers than actually trying to get to the bottom of problems. Of all the car companies in the US, Toyota is the most aggressive at fighting off recalls. I don't understand all the Toyota apologists who turn a blind eye to Toyota's many failuings. I am not saying Toyota is unique in having problems, they are not. The biggest difference between Toyota and, say GM, is that in the past Toyota ironed out many of their defect before selling vehicles in the US. Now that many Toyota vehicles are US specific, or introduced in the US at the same time as in the rest of the world, we are now seeing many of the Toyota defects. However, Toyota, more so than other manufacturers, tries to cover up these defects.
Partial List of Recent Pickup Truck Investigations:
PE09049 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2001 SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:DIFFERENTIAL PROPORTIONAL VALVE TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20091006 FRAME CORROSION THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION HAS RECEIVED 20 REPORTS ON THE SUBJECT VEHICLES THAT RELATE TO SPARE TIRE SEPARATION AND BRAKE SYSTEM FAILURES AS A RESULT OF SEVERE FRAME CORROSION.THERE HAVE BEEN 15 REPORTS ALLEGING THE UNDER BODY MOUNTED SPARE TIRE SEPARATED FROM THE REAR CROSSMEMBER AND FIVE REPORTS ALLEGING BROKEN BRAKE LINES AT THE PROPORTIONING VALVE LOCATED ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE OF THE REAR CROSSMEMBER AT THE UPPER SHOCK MOUNT.
DP08001 TOYOTA TACOMA 2007 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:ACCELERATOR PEDAL TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20080131 20080827 SUDDEN AND UNCONTROLLED ACCELERATION THE PETITIONER OWNS A MODEL YEAR (MY) 2006 TOYOTA TACOMA EQUIPPED WITH A V6 ENGINE AND AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.IN A PETITION SENT TO NHTSA'S OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) DATED JANUARY 10, 2008, HE ALLEGES HE EXPERIENCED TWO INCIDENTS OF UNWANTED ACCELERATION WHILE DRIVING HIS TACOMA.THE PETITIONER REPORTED THAT DURING BOTH INCIDENTS, WHILE APPLYING THE BRAKE, THE ENGINE SPEED INCREASED OF ITS OWN ACCORD (WITHOUT ACCELERATOR APPLICATION), CAUSING SUDDEN AND UNCONTROLLED ACCELERATION.THE PETITIONER REQUESTED THAT THE AGENCY COMMENCE A PROCEEDING TO DETERMINE THE EXISTENCE OF A DEFECT RELATED TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY INVOLVING THE ELECTRONICALLY ACTUATED THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM.ODI REVIEWED THE PETITION, ASSESSED VOQS, INTERVIEWED PERSONS WHO FILED VOQS, TESTED THE VEHICLE, AND REVIEWED TOYOTA'S RESPONSE TO AN AGENCY INFORMATION REQUEST.THE COMPLAINTS FELL INTO THREE GROUPS.A MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS MAY HAVE INVOLVED THE TACOMA'S THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM.SOME COMPLAINTS DID NOT INVOLVE A FAILURE OF THE THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM.FOR THE REMAINING REPORTS, ALTHOUGH THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THE THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM AS ONE POSSIBLE EXPLANATION, WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO DETERMINE A CAUSE RELATED TO THROTTLE CONTROL OR ANY UNDERLYING CAUSE THAT GAVE RISE TO THE COMPLAINT.FOR THOSE VEHICLES WHERE THE THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM DID NOT PERFORM AS THE OWNER BELIEVES IT SHOULD HAVE, THE INFORMATION SUGGESTING A POSSIBLE DEFECT RELATED TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY IS QUITE LIMITED.ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION IS UNLIKELY TO RESULT IN A FINDING THAT A DEFECT RELATED TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY EXISTS OR A NHTSA ORDER FOR THE NOTIFICATION AND REMEDY OF A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT AS REQUESTED BY THE PETITIONER.THEREFORE, IN VIEW OF THE NEED TO ALLOCATE AND PRIORITIZE NHTSA'S LIMITED RESOURCES TO BEST ACCOMPLISH THE AGENCY'S SAFETY MISSION, THE PETITION IS DENIED.PLEASE SEE THEFEDERAL REGISTER NOTICE FOR FURTHER DETAILS.
EA97015 TOYOTA TACOMA 1996 EXTERIOR LIGHTING TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 19970722 19980921 TURN SIGNAL FAILURES ALLEGED LEFT AND RIGHT TURN SIGNAL FUNCTIONS FAIL WHILE DRIVING.
EA04024 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2002 SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20040820 20050708 05V225000 BALL JOINT SEPARATION ODI RECEIVED 3 CONSUMER REPORTS OF ALLEGED BALL JOINT SEPARATION ON MY 2002 TUNDRA VEHICLES.THE COMPLAINTS ALLEGE THAT A FRONT SUSPENSION BALL JOINT SEPARATED WHILE DRIVING, WHICH CAUSED THE SUSPENSION TO COLLAPSE AND RESULTED IN A LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL.BASED ON THESE COMPLAINTS, ODI OPENED PE02-040 AND LATER UPGRADED TO EA04-024 FOR MY 2002 TUNDRA VEHICLES.DURING EA04-024, ADDITIONAL FAILURE DATA WAS IDENTIFIED AS NOTED IN THE FAILURE REPORT SUMMARY ABOVE. ON MAY 16, 2005, TOYOTA NOTIFIED NHTSA OF A SAFETY DEFECT ON MY 2002-2004 TUNDRA AND SEQUOIA VEHICLES (PRODUCED BETWEEN AUGUST 1, 2001 AND SEPTEMBER 30, 2003), MY 2001-2004 TACOMA VEHICLES (PRODUCED BETWEEN JULY 31, 2001 AND DECEMBER 23, 2003), AND MY 2001-2002 4RUNNER VEHICLES (PRODUCED BETWEEN MAY 22, 2001 AND AUGUST 23, 2002).THE NOTIFICATION STATED THAT DUE TO A MANUFACTURING ISSUE WITH THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINTS (WHICH CONNECT THE LOWER CONTROL ARMS TO THE STEERING KNUCKLES OF THE FRONT WHEELS) THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE SURFACE OF THE BALL OF THE JOINT MAY HAVE BEEN SCRATCHED.SUCH SCRATCHES MAY RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY ACCELERATED WEAR OF THE JOINT. ACCORDING TO TOYOTA, IF THE [SUBJECT] VEHICLE IS OPERATED FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME IN THIS CONDITION, THE BALL JOINT MAY EVENTUALLY EXPERIENCE EXCESSIVE WEAR AND LOOSENESS, RESULTING IN INCREASED STEERING EFFORT, REDUCED VEHICLE SELF-CENTERING, AND NOISE IN THE FRONT SUSPENSION.IN EXTREME CASES, WHEN THE DRIVER CONTINUES TO OPERATE THE VEHICLE IN THIS CONDITION, THE LOWER BALL JOINT MAY SEPARATE FROM THE KNUCKLE CAUSING A LOSS OF VEHICLE STEERING CONTROL. TOYOTA WILL INSTRUCT OWNERS TO RETURN THEIR VEHICLES TO ANY TOYOTA DEALER FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINTS.ODI WILL MONITOR THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE REMEDY AND TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WARRANTED.
Partial List of Recent Pickup Truck Recalls (most of these recalls apply to more years / models than listed - I only included one copy of each recall notice. THe NHTSA database list the same recall repeatedly for the different models / years):
4806 05V254000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2004 70A AIR BAGS:ON-OFF SWITCH ASSEMBLY TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20020903 20050422 V 156111 20070112 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050602 20050606 571 225 CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD NO. 225, 'CHILD RESTRAINT ANCHORAGE SYSTEMS.' THESE VEHICLES HAVE A MANUAL AIR BAG ON-OFF SWITCH TO DISABLE THE FRONT PASSENGER AIR BAG AND DO NOT HAVE A CHILD RESTRAINT LOWER ANCHORAGE SYSTEM IN THE FRONT PASSENGER SEAT. THIS SPECIFICATION DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARD REQUIREMENTS. THIS STANDARD ESTABLISHES REQUIREMENTS FOR CHILD RESTRAINT ANCHORAGE SYSTEMS TO ENSURE THEIR PROPER LOCATION AND STRENGTH FOR THE EFFECTIVE SECURING OF CHILD RESTRAINTS, TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF THE ANCHORAGE SYSTEMS' FAILURE, AND TO INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT CHILD RESTRAINTS ARE PROPERLY SECURED AND THUS MORE FULLY ACHIEVE THEIR POTENTIAL EFFECTIVENESS IN MOTOR VEHICLES. DEALERS WILL REMOVE THE MANUAL AIR BAG ON-OFF SWITCH, REPLACE THE OWNER'S MANUAL, AND AFFIX A NEW SUN VISOR AIR BAG WARNING LABEL. THE RECALL BEGAN IN EARLY JANUARY 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 70A.CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIONS VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . 000022038000111982000000261
5039 08E029000 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA TUNDRA 2007 WHEELS:LUGS/NUTS/BOLTS SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS E 216 20080421 MFR SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS 20080331 20080403 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA IS RECALLING ALLOY WHEEL LUG NUTS USED FOR THE 18" DIAMOND FINISH 5-SPOKE ALLOY WHEELS AND 20" PAINTED ALLOY WHEELS WITH 6-DUAL SPOKES SOLD AS AN UPGRADE PACKAGE FOR 2007 TOYOTA TUNDRA MODEL VEHICLES. THE WHEEL NUTS CAN CRACK AND BREAK IF THE WHEELS ARE NOT INSTALLED CAREFULLY OR NOT CAREFULLY TIGHTENED. THIS WHEEL NUT CONDITION COULD OCCUR AT THE TIME OF WHEEL INSTALLATION, TIRE ROTATION, OR SERVICE. CRACKED OR BROKEN WHEEL NUTS COULD RESULT IN A VEHICLE CRASH. SOUTHEAST TOYOTA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND REPLACE THE WHEEL NUTS WITH A MORE ROBUST WHEEL NUT FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 21, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT SOUTHEAST TOYOTA CUSTOMER LOYALTY DEPARTMENT TOLL-FREE AT 800-301-6859. CUSTOMERS MAY CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY: 1-800-424-9153); OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . 000026400000357626000000312
10930 00V103000 GULF TOYOTA TUNDRA 2000 TRAILER HITCHES GULF STATES TOYOTA, INC. 19990401 20000321 V 7000 20000609 MFR GULF STATES TOYOTA, INC. 20000407 20000428 VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PICKUP TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH A TEKONSHA TRAILER HITCH WIRING HARNESS AND CONVERTER AND DISTRIBUTED BY GULF STATES TOYOTA (TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, LOUISIANA, ARKANSAS, AND MISSISSIPPI). AN ELECTRICAL SHORT CIRCUIT CAN OCCUR IF WATER ENTERS THE CONVERTER HOUSING. THIS SHORT CIRCUIT COULD CAUSE A FAILURE OF THE CONVERTER, AND IF A TRAILER IS BEING TOWED AT THE TIME, CAN ALSO CAUSE INOPERATIVE TRAILER LIGHTS. THIS RECALL HAS BEEN SUPERSEDED BY RECALL NO. 02V-050. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JUNE 9, 2000.OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT GULF STATES TOYOTA AT 1-800-444-1074.ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236). 000010453000089175000000316
16033 02V050000 GULF TOYOTA TUNDRA 2001 TRAILER HITCHES GULF STATES TOYOTA, INC. 19990401 20020204 V 8609 20020422 MFR GULF STATES TOYOTA, INC. 20020211 20020305 CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH A TEKONSHA TRAILER HITCH WIRING HARNESS AND CONVERTER AND DISTRIBUTED BY GULF STATES TOYOTA (TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, LOUISIANA, ARKANSAS, AND MISSISSIPPI). THE CIRCUITRY USED IN THE CONVERTER, WHICH IS INADEQUATE TO MANAGE PROPERLY VEHICLE AND/OR TRAILER-SIDE VOLTAGE SPIKES. IF THE CONVERTER IS EXPOSED TO A VOLTAGE SPIKE, IT COULD CAUSE AN ELECTRICAL SHORT OR OPEN CIRCUIT WITHIN THE CONVERTER. THIS SHORT CIRCUIT COULD CAUSE A FAILURE OF THE CONVERTER, AND IF A TRAILER IS BEING TOWED AT THE TIME, CAN ALSO CAUSE INOPERATIVE TRAILER LIGHTS. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE WIRE HARNESS AND CONVERTER. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN APRIL 22, 2002. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT GULF STATES TOYOTA AT 1-800-444-1074. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236). 000014755000093220000000316
20736 02V129000 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA TUNDRA 2001 WHEELS SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS 20020520 V 3041 20020715 MFR SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS 20020501 20020514 ON CERTAIN 4X2 VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AN ALLOY WHEEL TIRE UPGRADE (OPTIONS WM4, WM8, ZL1-ZL4, DH4, OR DH5) INSTALLED BY THE PROCESSING CENTERS IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA OR COMMERCE, GEORGIA, A LABEL IDENTIFYING THE SPARE TIRE AS A TEMPORARY USE SPARE TIRE WAS NOT INSTALLED. THE UPGRADE INCLUDES 4 LARGER SIZE TIRES WITH ALLOY WHEELS. THE ORIGINAL SPARE TIRE/STEEL WHEEL IS NOT PART OF THE UPGRADE AND WAS NOT CHANGED. DIFFERENT OPERATING CHARACTERISTICS CAN BE EXPERIENCED WHEN THE SPARE TIRE IS INSTALLED ON THE VEHICLE. OWNERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH A CAUTION LABEL AND AN INSERT FOR THEIR OWNER'S MANUAL. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JULY 15, 2002. OWNERS WHO DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT SOUTHEAST TOYOTA AT 1-800-301-6859. CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236). 000014890000106044000000309
28020 07V013000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2004 70B SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20030815 20061117 V 533124 20070228 ODI TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20070119 20070119 ON CERTAIN TRUCKS AND MINI VANS, DUE TO POSSIBLE IMPROPER FINISHING OF THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT, SOME BALL JOINTS MAY EXPERIENCE AN INCIDENTAL DETERIORATION OF THE INTERNAL LUBRICATION. THIS MAY CAUSE THE BALL JOINT TO WEAR AND LOOSEN PREMATURELY, WHICH COULD RESULT IN INCREASED STEERING EFFORT, REDUCED VEHICLE SELF-CENTERING, AND NOISE IN THE FRONT SUSPENSION. IN EXTREME CASES, IF THE VEHICLE IS CONTINUOUSLY OPERATED IN THIS CONDITION, THE LOWER BALL JOINT MAY SEPARATE FROM THE KNUCKLE AND COULD CAUSE A LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINTS. THE RECALL BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 28, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 70B.CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . 000023188000216308000000041
37843 08V080000 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA TUNDRA 2007 WHEELS:LUGS/NUTS/BOLTS SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS V 1716 20080418 MFR SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS 20080225 20080225 SOUTHEAST TOYOTA IS RECALLING 1,555 MY 2007 TUNDRA VEHICLES DUE TO A WHEEL NUT ISSUE. THE RECALLED VEHICLES ARE MY 2007 TUNDRAS EQUIPPED WITH 18" INSTALLED DIAMOND FINISH 5-SPOKE ALLOY WHEELS (OPTION CODE WN1 OR WN4) OR 20" INSTALLED PAINTED ALLOY WHEELS WITH 6 DUAL SPOKES (OPTION CODE WV1 OR WV4). AFFECTED VEHICLES WERE ORIGINALLY SOLD IN FLORIDA, GEORGIA, ALABAMA, NORTH CAROLINA OR SOUTH CAROLINA. WHEN THE VEHICLE WAS PROCESSED AT THE PORT, THE UPGRADED ALLOY WHEELS WERE FASTENED WITH NEW WHEEL NUTS. THE WHEEL NUTS CAN CRACK AND BREAK IF THEY ARE NOT INSTALLED CAREFULLY OR NOT CAREFULLY TIGHTENED. THIS WHEEL NUT CONDITION COULD OCCUR AT THE TIME OF WHEEL INSTALLATION, TIRE ROTATION, OR SERVICE. IF A VEHICLE'S WHEEL HAS A CRACKED OR BROKEN WHEEL NUT CONDITION AND THE WHEEL BECOMES LOOSE AND FALLS OFF THE VEHICLE WITHOUT WARNING, A CRASH COULD OCCUR. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE ATTACHING WHEEL NUTS. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 18, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT SOUTHEAST TOYOTA AT 1-800-301-6859. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . 000026111000357626000000312
38878 09V388000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2007 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:ACCELERATOR PEDAL TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION V 3800000 20091008 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20091005 20091006 TOYOTA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2004-2010 PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL CAN GET STUCK IN THE WIDE OPEN POSITION DUE TO ITS BEING TRAPPED BY AN UNSECURED OR INCOMPATIBLE DRIVER'S FLOOR MAT. A STUCK OPEN ACCELERATOR PEDAL MAY RESULT IN VERY HIGH VEHICLE SPEEDS AND MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO STOP THE VEHICLE, WHICH COULD CAUSE A CRASH, SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH. TOYOTA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS OF AFFECTED VEHICLES TO REMOVE ANY DRIVER'S FLOOR MAT AND NOT REPLACE IT WITH ANY OTHER FLOOR MAT PENDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MODEL-SPECIFIC REMEDIES. TOYOTA WILL MAIL A SECOND NOTIFICATION TO OWNERS OF AFFECTED VEHICLES NOTIFYING THEM OF THE FREE REMEDIES WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE. THE FIRST NOTICE IS EXPECTED TO BE MAILED DURING OCTOBER 2009 AND TOYOTA WILL ADVISE NHTSA OF THE ESTIMATED DATE WHEN THE REMEDIES WILL BE AVAILABLE. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331, LEXUS AT 1-800-255-3987. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO <A HREF=HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV </A> . 000033638000222026000000295
49208 01E041000 TOYOTA TRAILER HARNESS CONVERTER 9999 TRAILER HITCHES TOYOTA MOTOR CO., LTD. E 70717 20010827 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20010801 20010809 EQUIPMENT DESCRIPTION: THIS RECALL IS FOR TRAILER TOWING WIRE HARNESS CONVERTERS INSTALLED BY DEALERS OR FOR INSTALLATION ON 1999-2000 TOYOTA TUNDRA AND TACOMA VEHICLES. THE CONNECTORS INTEGRATE THE VEHICLE'S TAIL LIGHTS, BRAKE LIGHTS, AND TURN SIGNAL LIGHTS WITH THOSE EQUIPPED ON THE TRAILER, ARE DEFECTIVE. AFFECTED PART NUMBERS ARE: PT207-34000, PT207-34002, PT207-04981, AND PT214-04985. IN THE TUNDRA VEHICLES, THE CIRCUITRY UTILIZED IN THE CONVERTER WAS INADEQUATE TO PROPERLY MANAGE VEHICLE AND/OR TRAILER-SIDE VOLTAGE SPIKES. IF THE CONVERTER IS EXPOSED TO A VOLTAGE SPIKE, IT MAY CAUSE AN ELECTRICAL SHORT OR OPEN CIRCUIT WITHIN THE CONVERTER. IN THE TACOMA VEHICLES, DUE TO DEFICIENT WATERPROOFING AND IMPROPER INSTALLATION LOCATION OF THE CONVERTER, WHICH IS MOUNTED IN THE LOWER PORTION OF THE TAILGATE CAVITY OF THE VEHICLE, AN ELECTRICAL SHORT CIRCUIT WILL OCCUR IF WATER ENTERS THE CONVERTER HOUSING. AN ELECTRICAL SHORT OR OPEN CIRCUIT CAN CAUSE A FAULT IN THE CONVERTER AND A NON-OPERATIONAL CONDITION OF THE TRAILER LIGHTS. IF THE VEHICLE IS DRIVEN WITHOUT TRAILER LIGHTS, IT MAY BE DIFFICULT FOR OTHER DRIVERS TO SEE THE TRAILER, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH. DEALERS WILL NOTIFY THE CUSTOMERS AND INSTALL A REDESIGNED TRAILER TOWING WIRE HARNESS CONVERTER FREE OF CHARGE. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN AUGUST 27, 2001. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236). 000013997000101205000000316
56213 05V225000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2002 50J SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20010801 20030930 V 768379 20050705 ODI TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050517 20050517 ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, DUE TO A MANUFACTURING ISSUE IN THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE SURFACE OF THE BALL OF THE JOINT MAY HAVE BEEN SCRATCHED. THE BALL JOINT MAY EVENTUALLY EXPERIENCE EXCESSIVE WEAR AND LOOSENESS, RESULTING IN INCREASED STEERING EFFORT. THE LOWER BALL JOINT MAY SEPARATE FROM THE KNUCKLE CAUSING LOSS OF STEERING CONTROL AND A CRASH COULD OCCUR. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINTS FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JULY 5, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 50J.CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . 000022000000097919000000041
56688 05E077000 TOYOTA 20" ALLOY WHEEL 9999 WHEELS:LUGS/NUTS/BOLTS TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. E 22 20051122 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20051222 20051202 CERTAIN TOYOTA TUNDRA AND SEQUOIA TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH TOYOTA RACING DEVELOPMENT (TRD) 20" ALLOY WHEELS SOLD AND INSTALLED BY TOYOTA DEALERS AS AN AFTERMARKET ACCESSORY WHEEL. DUE TO A MANUFACTURING ERROR, THE LUG-NUT HOLES WERE NOT MACHINED TO THE APPROPRIATE SPECIFICATION WHICH WILL REDUCE THREAD ENGAGEMENT. THESE WHEELS MAY NOT MAINTAIN THE APPROPRIATE TORQUE SPECIFICATION REQUIRED SECURING THE WHEEL TO THE VEHICLE. THIS MAY EVENTUALLY LEAD TO WHEEL FAILURE AND POSSIBLY RESULT IN A VEHICLE CRASH. ALL SIX VEHICLE OWNERS HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY TELEPHONE AND INSTRUCTED TO RETURN THEIR VEHICLES TO THEIR DEALER FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE TRD ACCESSORY 20" ALLOY WHEELS WITH CORRECTED ONES FREE OF CHARGE. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. CUSTOMERS MAY CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236; (TTY: 1-800-424-9153); OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . 000022469000214892000000312
58201 07V579000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2007 70G POWER TRAIN:DRIVELINE:DRIVESHAFT TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20061109 20070803 V 15616 20080107 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20071218 20071218 ON CERTAIN 4-WHEEL DRIVE PICKUP TRUCKS, DUE TO THE IMPROPER HEAT TREATMENT OF THE SLIP YOKES THAT HAD BEEN REWORKED DURING THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS, THE HARDNESS OF THE SLIP YOKE MAY BE INSUFFICIENT. IN THIS CONDITION, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE YOKE MAY BREAK CAUSING THE PROPELLER SHAFT TO SEPARATE AT THE JOINT AND COME INTO CONTACT WITH THE ROAD SURFACE OR THE FUEL TANK WHICH COULD RESULT IN A LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL OR A FUEL LEAK. DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE SLIP YOKE AND REPLACE THE PROPELLER SHAFT IF NECESSARY FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JANUARY 7, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 70G.CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIONS VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . 000025636000222026000000192
60135 99V347003 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2000 SSC Y01 EXTERIOR LIGHTING:TAIL LIGHTS TOYOTA MOTOR CO., LTD. 19990204 19990730 V 16472 20000225 ODI TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20000118 20000203 VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: LIGHT DUTY TRUCKS. THE TAIL LIGHT SOCKET MAY HAVE BEEN IMPROPERLY MOLDED, RESULTING IN THE LOCKING TAB HAVING INSUFFICIENT FORCE TO RETAIN THE BULB. IF THE BULB FALLS OUT OF THE SOCKET, THE BRAKE OR TAIL LAMP FUNCTION CANNOT OCCUR. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE TAIL LAMP SOCKETS. TOYOTA RECALL NO. SSC Y01.OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN FEBRUARY 25, 2000.OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236). 000010052000086732000000223
70203 09V223000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2008 EQUIPMENT:OTHER:LABELS TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050901 20090504 V 27080 20090918 OVSC TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION 20090615 20090615 571 110 TOYOTA IS RECALLING 27,080 MODEL YEAR 2009 AND 2010 PASSENGER CARS BUILT FROM JUNE 2, 2008 TO MAY 4, 2009. THESE VEHICLES WERE NOT EQUIPPED WITH LOAD CARRYING CAPACITY MODIFICATION LABELS WHICH FAILS TO CONFORM WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD NO. 110, "TIRE SELECTION AND RIMS." INCORRECT LOAD CARRYING CAPACITY MODIFICATION LABELS COULD RESULT IN THE VEHICLE BEING OVERLOADED, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH. TOYOTA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND PROVIDE THEM WITH A NEW, ACCURATE LABEL TO BE INSTALLED OVER THE INACCURATE LABEL FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR ABOUT AUGUST 31, 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-888-270-9371. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO <A HREF=HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV </A> . 000031939000360681000000349
77183 05V123000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2005 50E ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20030801 20041222 V 5726 20050531 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050330 20050330 CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH BOTH VEHICLE STABILITY CONTROL (VSC) AND THE TRD DUAL EXHAUST SYSTEMS. THE TRD DUAL EXHAUST SYSTEM MET ALL CLEARANCE SPECIFICATIONS ON MODELS WITHOUT VSC, HOWEVER THE DRIVER'S SIDE EXHAUST LOCATED IN A POSITION WHERE CONTACT BETWEEN A BRAKE LINE FOUND ONLY ON VEHICLES WITH VSC AND THE TRD EXHAUST PIPE MIGHT OCCUR. IN THIS CONDITION, THE EXHAUST PIPE FLANGE MAY RUB AGAINST THE RIGHT REAR BRAKE LINE, WHICH COULD CAUSE BRAKE FLUID LEAKAGE. THIS COULD LEAD TO AN INCREASE OF VEHICLE STOPPING DISTANCE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH. DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND, IF SO EQUIPPED, WILL REPLACE THE TRD DUAL EXHAUST SYSTEM FREE OF CHARGE. DURING THIS REPLACEMENT, THE DEALER WILL ALSO INSPECT THE SPECIFIC BRAKE LINE TO ASSURE IT HAS NOT BEEN DAMAGED AND REPLACE IT IF NECESSARY. THE RECALL BEGAN ON MAY 31, 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 50E.CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . 000021874000115015000000138
77330 05V328000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2005 50K AIR BAGS:FRONTAL TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050422 20050629 V 2527 20050805 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20050720 20050721 571 208 CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS AND OPTIONAL FABRIC FRONT CAPTAIN'S CHAIRS FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD NO. 208, 'OCCUPANT CRASH PROTECTION.' THESE VEHICLES WERE BUILT WITH AN INCORRECT FRONT PASSENGER OCCUPANT CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM INDICATOR LIGHT LENS WHICH WILL NOT DISPLAY THE STATUS OF THE FRONT PASSENGER AIR BAG. AS A RESULT, THE VEHICLE OCCUPANTS WILL NOT BE MADE AWARE OF WHETHER OR NOT THE AIR BAG IS ACTIVATED AND READY TO PROTECT THE OCCUPANT AS APPROPRIATE. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FRONT PASSENGER OCCUPANT CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM INDICATOR LENS. THE RECALL BEGAN AUGUST 5, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO. 50K.CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIONS VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236; (TTY: 1-800-424-9153); OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . 000022141000115015000000257
4333 96V129000 TOYOTA TACOMA 1996 SUSPENSION:FRONT TOYOTA MOTOR CO., LTD. V 90000 19960906 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 19960710 19960715 UNDER CERTAIN DRIVING CONDITIONS, THE FRONT SUSPENSION SUPPORT CAN CRACK LEADING TO FAILURE OF THE SUPPORT. THIS CONDITION CAN RESULT IN LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL. DEALERS WILL REPAIR THE SUSPENSION SUPPORT. SYSTEM: SUSPENSION; INDEPENDENT; FRONT. VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: LIGHT DUTY PICKUP TRUCK. OWNER NOTIFICATION: OWNER NOTIFICATION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN LATE AUGUST 1996. NOTE: OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-800-424-9393. 000007849000070722000000023
4699 03V189000 TOYOTA TACOMA 2002 SSC 30H FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:DELIVERY:HOSES, LINES/PIPING, AND FITTINGS TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20000919 20030227 V 123360 20030603 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20030519 20030522 ON CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS, DURING SIDE IMPACT NCAP TEST (I.E. LINCAP TEST), A FLANGE AT THE REAR END OF THE DOUBLE CAB BODY DEFORMED AND INTERFERED WITH THE FUEL INLET HOSE THAT CONNECTS THE FUEL FILLER PIPE AND FUEL TANK, RESULTING IN DAMAGE TO THE FUEL INLET HOSE. THIS DAMAGE COULD RESULT IN FUEL LEAKAGE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A FIRE IF IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE. DEALERS WILL INSTALL A FUEL HOSE PROTECTOR ON THE BODY FLANGE. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JUNE 3, 2003. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO.SSC 30H.CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIONS AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236). 000020373000097358000000153
8189 98V188000 TOYOTA TACOMA 1998 AIR BAGS:ON-OFF SWITCH ASSEMBLY TOYOTA MOTOR CO., LTD. 19980119 19980806 V 84323 19981116 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 19980806 19980817 571 208 VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE STATEMENT REQUIRED IN THE OWNER'S MANUAL THAT "...THE ON-OFF SWITCH SHOULD ONLY BEN USED WHEN A MEMBER OF A PASSENGER RISK GROUP IDENTIFIED IN THE REQUEST FORM IN APPENDIX B......IS OCCUPYING THE RIGHT FRONT PASSENGER SEATING POSITION..." IS MIS-STATED. THIS DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FMVSS 208, "OCCUPANT CRASH PROTECTION." IF THE AIR BAG SWITCH IS "OFF," THE SEAT OCCUPANT WHO IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE PASSENGER RISK GROUP WOULD BE SUBJECT TO INCREASED INJURY IN THE EVENT OF A VEHICLE CRASH. OWNERS WILL BE SENT A CORRECTED OWNER'S MANUAL. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN NOVEMBER 16, 1998.OWNERS WHO DO NOT RECEIVE THE CORRECTED OWNER'S MANUAL WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331.ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236). 000008765000078620000000261
5911 03V189000 TOYOTA TACOMA 2001 SSC 30H FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:DELIVERY:HOSES, LINES/PIPING, AND FITTINGS TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20000919 20030227 V 123360 20030603 MFR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. 20030519 20030522 ON CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS, DURING SIDE IMPACT NCAP TEST (I.E. LINCAP TEST), A FLANGE AT THE REAR END OF THE DOUBLE CAB BODY DEFORMED AND INTERFERED WITH THE FUEL INLET HOSE THAT CONNECTS THE FUEL FILLER PIPE AND FUEL TANK, RESULTING IN DAMAGE TO THE FUEL INLET HOSE. THIS DAMAGE COULD RESULT IN FUEL LEAKAGE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A FIRE IF IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE. DEALERS WILL INSTALL A FUEL HOSE PROTECTOR ON THE BODY FLANGE. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JUNE 3, 2003. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331. TOYOTA RECALL NO.SSC 30H.CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIONS AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236). 000020373000092516000000153
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That sure was a lot of data in your last message. But there's still some important data missing. You still can't show data which indicates how many people buy trucks "just to have", vs those who buy them because of their work. That data would also need to be broken down by brand. You've made claims which require this data in order to be believable, but you've never shown the data. That's probably because such data doesn't exist.
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

You have to look at the big picture.
Consider that people shopping for a vehicle at a Ford dealer will often purchase the F150 rather than one of Ford's rather poor sedans, coupes, or SUVs. That's how you end up with the F150 often being the "best selling vehicle in the U.S." No one thinks that all those buyers are contractors; those F150s are the daily commute vehicle for most of the buyers.
People shopping for a vehicle at a Toyota dealer have a selection of excellent cars, trucks, and SUVs. Few Toyota buyers are going to choose a large pickup truck, with its rather poor MPG, as a passenger vehicle for daily use. That's why Tundra buyers tend to be people that are using their trucks for real work, not weekend warriors hauling bags of potting soil home from Lowe's or Home Depot.
The market for personal vehicles is much larger than the market for real work trucks, that's why the F150 sells well.
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Maybe, but without data (which doesn't exist), your theories do nothing but invite yet another detour in the discussion. Hunter should come along shortly, sputtering & drooling with another of his drunken, misspelled opinions.
But still, there will be no data. There may be a few dealerships where real sales training is done, and the salespeople proactively ask buyers how they plan on using their trucks. But we'll never know because nobody polls car salesmen on this subject. I wish somebody would prove me wrong, though. It would mean that there was more sales professionalism in the car business than previously thought. That would be a win-win situation in so many ways.
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This is sort of weird logic.
It seems to me you are saying - People decide they want a Ford, they go to the Ford dealer, and the only decent vehcile is an F150, so they buy it. They don't consider cars from other manufacturers, only Ford, so they feel stuck with F150s. Do you think this is reasonable?
Don't you think it is more likely, that for whatever reason a large number of people decide they want a truck, and then once they decide they want a truck, a large percentage decide to buy a Ford F150? This seems much more likely to me.
In the last 5 years I have bought five new vehicles (three for me and two for children). Three were cars (Mustang, Fusion, Mazda3) and two were trucks (Frontier, F150). I didn't start out looking to buy a car (say the Fusion) and end up in an F150. I wanted/needed a car and bought a car that I thought best meet the need (or want). Likewise when I decided to get a new farm truck, I looked around and bought a truck. I didn't go to the Toyota dealer and think, hey, they have great cars, I'll buy one. No, I looked at their trucks, and Ford's, and Nissan's, and bought a Nissan (and then after 3 years decided I hated it and bought a Ford).
I can buy the arguement that until recently Ford's car offereings were not as attractive relative to their trucks as offering from other manufacturers, and therefore Ford sales were skewed to trucks (i.e., a larger percetnage of Ford's total sales were trucks than cars). I can't buy the arguement that the F150 is the best selling vehicle becasue it is Ford's only decent offering.
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You are confused, the frame on domestic trucks do not rust away. Toyota did what it did because the number of trucks, with seriously rusting frames made of Japanese steel, were approaching a NHTSA required safety recall. For Toyota to have yet another serious safety recall would make for more bad press. That why they stepped up to keep the shark layers at bay.

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Does Dana use Japanese steel in its frames?
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No, Dana Holding Corporation (Toledo OH) sells frames manufactured in both the US and Mexico. I highly doubt they're inporting Japanese steel for this purpose.
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That's kind of what I thought...
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