Honing cylinders without a honer

Emery paper, no problem...

J.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:23:41 +0000 (UTC), Eduardo Kaftanski scribbled this interesting note:

I've read here and there (as well as seen on engine run the way you say you want to run one) that without honing the cylinders back to a perfect circle (and that takes a very large marching to hold the cylinder into a fixed position with no flex) that you will always burn some oil by merely installing new rings onto a piston in an ACVW engine.

Sure it will get you by for a while, but remember to always check your oil as you will go through it quite rapidly...

-- John Willis

thanks.

You could always try Norwegian: Smergel papir... Personally I use it dry and of a fairly coarse grit.

J.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:17:38 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@stafford.net (J Stafford) scribbled this interesting note:

Agreed, but if I remember correctly from previous posts Eduardo is installing new rings on the existing pistons for use in the old cylinders. Those cylinders are no longer true and with new rings he will burn oil because they do not match the cylinder walls exactly. Now I could be misremembering, it happens more and more frequently these days...

BTW, back when I was in high school I had my first engine building experience. It was on a Model A Ford Tudor. (That's a Two Door for those who don't know.) I removed the head and the insides of all the cylinders were rusty. Very rusty. So I got out the WD-40 and some wet or dry sandpaper and cleaned them up. Nice and shiny. I put the silly thing back together and it ran! Well!:~)

Good luck.

-- John Willis

yes. I already assembled the engine today... uf... took me nearly

4 hours from starting to clean the first piston to having the second head with all nuts started. I never cracked open the case, I took out number 3 rod and the bearings were new.

I am waiting for the sun to come down a bit to final torque the heads.

I am verrrrrry happy with how it turned out. I measured all clearances and ring gaps and all checked out fine. It seems the engine was recently overhauled and the selled said, but an oil ring was broken so I changed them all..

The engine now has low time pistons and cilinders, new rings, new exhaust valves, new valve guides and new seals ands gaskets all around...

And most importantly, new air deflectors under the heads... it was assembled with pieces of tin wired to the studs. urgh...

I will upload pictures after I have something to eat. I am starving.

...................And I thought that John Stafford was ancient. You've just put yourself at the top of the 'old fart' list!

LOL!

Okay, that does it. Arm wrestling. You and me. After a few Guinnesses. If I can still remember what were're there for.

.................heh heh..........Can I get my teenage linebacker/fullback to sub for me? He bench presses 250.

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:20:57 -0400, "Tim Rogers" began spewing the following from their cake-hole:

Me too, with a chicken wing in one hand and a cigarette hanging out of my mouth. What are we gettin' at? ;-) (Just kiddin'. I can't bench press quite that much, damnit.)

-- Travis '63 VW Camo Baja...

that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.

:wq!

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:20:57 -0400, "Tim Rogers" ran around screaming and yelling:

tim....250 isn't all that spectacular...not too shabby, but not spectacular...when i worked out regularly i would do 275....probably couldn't do it now, but if igot back into the gym a bit i could... J

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:50:49 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@stafford.net (J Stafford) ran around screaming and yelling:

was this by chance in the 60's?.... J

I could lift 250 overhead with one arm in High School. Can't remember where the other arm was.

I used to do 12 oz regressive curls all night long.

Randy

Precisely!

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:58:20 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@stafford.net (J Stafford) ran around screaming and yelling:

makes perfect sense then... J

On 28 Sep 2003 23:54:51 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.comIdiot (RSMEINER) began spewing the following from their cake-hole:

Would you like to bet any money on a contest of that? ;-)

-- Travis '63 VW Camo Baja...

that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.

:wq!

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:04:35 -0400, "Tim Rogers" ran around screaming and yelling:

well at 15, I only benched 175 or so...but i was a very healthy 125 pounds....... J

.................uh........He's only 15.

:-)