Corvette losing to an Audi?

if you actually read all the information on your screen you would have seen that this thread is cross posted in alt.autos.audi and alt.autos.corvette, which makes you look like the idiot my friend... and I do own an Audi that I would prefer over a Corvette btw (otherwise I would have bought a Corvette)

And I'm not trying to insult Corvette-owners or anything, it's just a matter of personal taste as I said before.

-- Dave

CR, I may be wrong - much like the folks who say that AUDI stands for Accelerates Under Demonic Influence - but was there not a case where a certain Chev engine, when the motor mounts failed, the engine would move under load and yank on the throttle cable? I seem to recall that I read an article about that and the fix at GM was to provide a supplemental restraint (ie - chain) to keep the engine from moving the throttle. Then again, I didn't check the Snopes.com site for this. That said, however, although you can see in the movie "The Insider" about how 60 Minutes was run (Audi just didn't have as much clout/$$$ as the tobacco companies did) - there were issues with the cars other than the proximity of the accelerator to the brake pedal - take the cruise control linkage. The rod is held on the vacuum servo end in a plastic bushing which, in the turbos, is exposed to a LOT of heat. The plastic degrades, the flared rod end falls into the engine.....if it gets stuck on the injector lines, then..... I've heard Audi produced some kind of back-up device to catch the rod - I've never seen one though. Also, a properly working ISV will allow the car to trundle along in any gear, foot off the gas, at idle speed. If anybody looks at

they'll see all sorts of UI complaints for basically all cars. What _is_ true, though, is that the brakes have more power than the engine. And then, of course, there's the key....... On the dragracing front, in the Audi camp there are people like Javad with his 034EFI'd 80tq at and a guy named Radim in the Toronto area with his T4/Megasquirt equipped 5000tq (there's a video of him doing burnouts in an Ikea parking lot circulating on the web). Amazing what they can do with that much hp in a car intended as a luxury sedan. I save the donuts and drag racing for the times where's there's 6 or more inches of snow on the road. Cheers! Steve Sears

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BB, Well.....that may be kinda true. Although I have seen vettes in the yards that I regularly cruise for parts for my cars. Problem is, they seldom _look_ like vettes....more like remnants of Jaws of Life work. My Uncle used to play a game with his carpool - "Beetle" was worth 1 point...."Graveyard" (aka Corvette) was worth 10. Don't get me wrong, I like the look of vettes - esp. the ones in the showrooms lately - what do they say...."With great power comes great responsibility"... I attend cruise nights with my '62 DKW (predecessors to today's Audi) - I have yet to see another. My friend is restoring a '56 vette and paid more for a convertible top than I paid for my DKW - which was nearly in show-ready condition. I attended a show last year that had 1300 cars

- the guy in the souped-up Mustang beside me got talking, "Let me ask you this.....your car has about one tenth the horsepower (~ 36 hp) than any other car in this line.....so why is your car the only one with a crowd around it?" ;-) There are many older Audis around - I figure that there fewer there are, the more rare mine become (I said "more rare"...not "increased market value"). Cheers! Steve Sears

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ever heard of heel-toe downshifting? :)

That's not necessarily a good advert ;o)

If you go back far eonough (e.g. Ro80) then you might find that "Audis" are also quite collectable. Not that this necessariliy compares to certain 'vettes (yes, despite being a TT owner, I'm also a fan of stupidly uneconomical, but loooooooverly-sounding V8s).

Live and let live; try not to get too much on you that you can't scrape off ;o)

H1K

P.S. a Westfield with a 30yr old engine will happily smoke both [unmodified] vehicles to 60mph/100kph. More to the point, who /really/ cares..?

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They do? What about this one? its a 1929 for those who are too lazy to click the link.

In an *automatic*?

- Greg Reed

Older than any vette? :) Really just making a joke. I have nothing against 'vettes.

Come on guys; take a look at the way the Vette stalls out of the lights. This junior bracket racer was sitting at the light with his tranny in third gear. By the time he down shifted, the Audi was so far out front and had built up a good lead. Get a guy behind the wheel of the Vette who can nail a light (and be in first) and the Audi is history. Hey, I hear Pedregon is looking for a ride! But nah! He'd never be able to handle a Vette?

:-)

In article , Just Taylor writes

ARG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The standard C5, with a 0-60 time of around 4.7 seconds couldn't ever hope to keep up with an RS6. The Z06 has a theoretically lower 0-60 time than the RS6 (by .02 of a second) but getting that kind of time out of it would demand professional skill and 2 or 3 of those runs would all but destroy the clutch. The old 2000 Turbo Quattro was faster than any C4 Vette' when it came out, in fact, it was even faster than some Ferraris of the era. At 5.2 seconds to 60 from a standstill, the S4 is nearly as fast as a C5 and far more useable. I venture to say that in bad weather and/or in the dry around a tight road, the S4 could give a C5 a good run.

Next time keep your thread & personal taste in the Audi newsgroup only, as we keep ours in the Corvette group only. I own a Corvette that I prefer & will always prefer over any Audi or else I would have done the big mistake on buying an Audi.

Ahem. As Dave pointed out, /you/ posted in the Audi group first (after all, he couldn't exactly reply from here if you hadn't)

Easy mistake to make, and hopefully the end of this forlorn thread..?

H1K

alt.autos.corvette,

LOL. Who hired you to be a USENET sheriff?

"We"? Multiple personality disorder, or pretending to speak for anyone but yourself?

Here's a free clue - learn how to use your newsreader. If that's too difficult, maybe just avoid reading threads that you aren't interested in. If you are happy driving your tupperware, that's great. I'm sure the mullet crowd is quite envious.

Those of us who drive cars made of metal? I suspect that most of us just ignore your type of automotive penis extenders.

-- Jonesy

A nice compliment to the radio, which has a deck sourced from a late 1990s Pontiac.

Don't see too many Vette's having their sourced 1990 Pontiac radios replaced as the amount of Audi owners have their factory radios replaced, Gotta be a good reason for that.

How about the 1998 C5s with interiors that are already cracking, ripping, and changing color because of the cheap leather and vinyl GM stuck inside them.

Well, although I haven't seen too many of these cases, I guess GM refuses to use cement leather material as Europeans use that results in back pains after a couple of driving hours.

GM's "special" edition Grand Sport from only a year later can be had for under $20k now

You have no idea what a Grand Sport is. Remember what I said, the 95 S6 will be at the junk yard one day. I supose it will still be worth more than the

95 Vette still in circulation???,,,Ya Right..... >

Yes, hopefully this will be the end of this forlorn thread, but I am glad to have learned that the Z06 is a faster car than the RS6. Performance was the main issue here.

In article , Black Bomb writes

LOL, what a hypocrite!