GM, help is here?

A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward. - Franklin D. Roosevelt

Interesting, at least he didn't walk of a cliff as lemmings do when they learn to walk.

Being a social liberal and a fiscal conservative, I'm really on the fence. Opinion, FWIW, is that the economy will recover sooner rather than later, and at least the borrowed money is going toward things that have value now (infrastructure) and in the future (clean energy). But he'll have to take on entitlements if he wants to solve this mess, and does anybody have enough guts for that?

To stay on-topic, I think GM is collateral damage from the cowboys of Wall Street. If there's outrage it ought to at least be directed to the right place.

AJM '93 40th Anniversary coupe, 6 sp (both tops)

The nation is not trying to tax itself into prosperity, its trying to spend itself into prosperity. I thinks its related to "trickle down economics."

I used to listen to him on the radio about 15 years ago in DC because he did have some interesting views, but he's a hypocrite and morally bankrupt. He helped organized the raid at Watergate and all he ever talked about was that he went to prison because he didn't cooperate with the investigation, never mind that what he did was illegal and just plain wrong. He would rant about gays in the military would destroy the armed forces one minute and then blast Clinton as a draft dodger the next. I used to think if Clinton were gay then he wouldn't have anything to rant about.

"Raid" it was actually the SOP political espionage "sneak in" that the parties did at the time. They just got caught via a piece of tape.

Nowadays each campaign gets hacker released from prison - to help "raid" for info.

-W

The vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. Churchill

May I introduce you to some of the planters of the old South prior to the Civil War, guys like John C. Calhoun, James Hammond, etc.

AJM '93 40th Anniversary coupe, 6 sp (both tops)

And he worshiped J. Edgar Hoover, the most evil thing in American History.

"The current vice of unbridled/unregulated capitalism is a design which ensures personal profit while displacing risk onto the public sector." -pj (2009)

Gosh, this doesn't look like capitalism. More like some mixture of Plutocracy, Oligarchy and Aristocracy.

Yesterday we were informed that many GM bondholders have hedged their bond investments with credit default swaps. So, they ain't sweating BK by GM.

Why is it that I think those swaps are from underfunded outfits? And, why is it that I think I'm about to be screwed by another bailout of an underfunded outfit that, "can't be allowed to fail?"

All probably advised by attorneys working for a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC)!

You know Hoover kept files on himself?? (it's true)

-W

Any relation to the Planters in Northern Ireland? They were Horses asses too....

As bad as J Edgar was I thought of an accurate bumper sticker.

"America's War on Terror...Where is J Edgar Hoover when you need him?"

As an example, here in suburban Chicago the "G" (aka FBI) arrested 15 muslims in one suburb of Chicago, including one who talked to one of the hijackers of 9/11. If J Edgar were alive they wouldn't arrest any of the 15. Like 8 of the 15 would "disapear" a few more would have fatal car accidents, a few more would commit suicide with a bullet to the back of the head, over doses, armed robberies but they didn't take anything etc.

You say that like you dissaprove?

-W

The former is called "breaking and entering", and the later is called "unlawful access to stored communications", both are felonies. If you got to traffic court because you were doing 75 in a 55 and you use the defense "everyone else was going 75" your still going to be found guilty and pay a fine.

G. Gordon Liddy was a criminal and an a$$hole.

Gave the Corvette a bad name. I would soon forget that this clown ever owned one.

Vito

Remember "Gone with the Wind"? What was Scarlett's last name?

AJM '93 40th Anniversary coupe, 6 ap (both tops)

Ouch, I'm so hurt. So politics are not involved in GM's business today? Interesting.

If you think I'm liberal or conservative you have not assessed my thinking very well. I'd much rather do with much less government than more, and that 'more' is not going to help GM.

You ever see one of those YouTube videos that have either a sexy babe on the "cover" or some other interesting topic but when you play it is shows you some pimpled teenager rattling on about nothing important. Feel dupped? So did I with this thread. Misleading subject (GM, help is here?) then a post totally devoid of anything to do about the subject.

Dad, leave your liberal ranting someplace else. It has no business being here.

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In the 1960's it was against the citizens of America without due process. Today it would be against non citizen enemy combatants who aren't due any process.