Wash. considers annual flat fee for electric cars

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Bam bam, O, bam bam, O....... Hope you all enjoy this socialist idiot
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On 4/23/11 7:58 PM, hls wrote:

I drank the Obama Kool-Aid and deeply regret doing that. I made the mistake of taking him at his word, especially about healthcare. I did what I thought was right at the time (do not regret that) but I certainly will be a LOT more cynical about who, or if, I vote for in 2012.
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On 04/23/2011 08:07 PM, Jim_Higgins wrote:

It was still the right choice. Whenever you feel bad about voting for Obama just say the phrase "President Palin" a couple times.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_electric_car_fees

There were other choices, you (and many others) did not take the time to look for them.
OTOH, it does not matter in this case. The state regulation has nothing to do with Federal laws. Electric users should pay their fair share of road taxes.
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It has been the practice of automakers of making everything bad and no standardisation. As a result of this most things in cars are breaking and you have to get spare parts that only fits your car. Not from other models and not from the same model made another year. It has been a producers market. They do what they want and they make most of their money from maintenance and spare parts. The consumers want reliable cars and pay as little as possible. Noone is creating such cars and all there is available is expensive, unreliable and complex. Consumers started to be interested in electrics because they promise to be less complex and more reliable. GM like many others create an electric which insidentally is not leectric but more of the same. The hybrids are not electrics. Ordinary old type cars as well as hybrids are complex system and have more than 1000 moving parts and they are more or less badly made and unreliable.
Electric cars promise to become a lot less complex and for a good reason.
They have basically only a handful and in theory only 4 moving parts.
It is a lot more difficult to make an unreliable electrical car and it is difficult to make it so unreliable that everything brakes down after a few years.
Withh true electric cars comes cheap maintenance and the total cost of ownership will go dramatically.
The profits of makers of true electrics will be a lot less because there is not so much in making spare parts.
There are not so many parts to make and eventually they will be more or less standardized.
GM and many of the old style manufacturers are fighting this trend like crazy and no wonder.
We the consumers are looking forward to more of the electrics and more power over the manufacturing.
The number of electrical cars is very limited and will remain so for a long time and it will be difficult to change that but it will happen.
The people repairing old type of cars do not like this trend either.
There are actually a hell of a lot of people fighting against this trend.
Even with all the people bad mouthing electrics and creating myths about troubles with this technology the trend is sure to continue and take over eventually because of the obvious benefits.
How long it will take is anyones guess but as more and more electrics become available the sooner it really will take off and the infrastructure will also change.
It will change the way we live and where we live too.
Are the hybrids good or bad?
I am not sure but I think they are mostly a bad idea but have some good points at least plugins so is the Volt a good idea or not?
As far as GM is concerned it is the only idea but it is surely too little and too late to save GM.
Would a true electric version of the Volt save GM?
I do not think so.
GM is too much into old type manufacturing, thinking and can not change fast enough to survive and will either die again or become a lot smaller and insignificant.
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On 4/23/11 10:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

No argument there. The rub will come in defining fair.
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On 23/04/2011 8:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

You can better than bank on that happening. Probably even go further, and tax all use on everyone as tax greed encroaches on income.
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I would challenge it being the right choice, but I also felt there was no real choice...Tweedledum or Tweedledee.
And when you look at "Sleepy" Biden versus Palin, it is just more of the same.
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On 23/04/2011 6:30 PM, Nate Nagel wrote:

Liberal fear begets liberal smear.
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On 23/04/2011 5:11 PM, Jim_Higgins wrote:

Just the beginning. Many governments are looking at increased taxes on electricity. And tiered rates, something like $0.20/kwh for the first 1000, then $0.35 there after. And eliminate the night time discounts.
And to top it off, others are in addition to above planing surcharges to upgrade capacity and the grid. Some expect electricity to at least double in as little as 5 years.
Just about when the first Lithium batteries need replacing.... My guess is resale on Volts are going to be dismal.
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