I wasn't the only "attacker" here. I just don't know why you needed to
critique my replacement regiment by boasting how you spend your money.
Remember any one the internet can be a prince of Nigeria. As for the
quality of my plugs and wires, if you don't know how good NGK's are, you
probably shouldn't be handing out advice. I've only had problems with
the oems so far, the NGK's have been great. If you would like to
critique my other regular maintenance, here's my schedule:
Air filter @ every oil change (granted it's just a wash and re-oil, K&N
PS fluid: every 2 years
Brake fluid: every brake job
Blinker fluid: haven't had to replace that yet, the muffler bearings
I didn't see any other "attackers" but I don't know why you are jealous of
how I spend my money. Everyone has their personal tastes. People buy
extended warraties and service plans and never use them too. Their choice.
If I spent my money on un-needed services, I'd not be able to travel every
few years. But don't stop on my account.
I'm regarded as Royalty in Poland.
As for the
Never tried the K&N filters. I've heard too much negative on them. OTOH,
I've never had a problem with paper filters so I'll continue to use them.
They work so why play with oil? Change as recommended at 30,000
Coolant today is good for 3 to 5 years. I go that long and have never had a
cooling problem since my '53 Merc. I've never changed PS fluid even after
15 years and 200,000 miles.
Considering that track record, I'm not going to change my schedule to spend
more money. As for automatic trasmissions, I've only ever change fluid in
one of them in 48 years of car ownership. Only one has ever has tranny
failure. Guess which one? I'll never change it again.
I'd agree on that. In my case, about 3+ years and 60k+ miles.
Wow, must be easy being oblivious. I'm not sure how you figure I'm
jealous of how you spend your money. I just said that if you feel the
need to brag about how you spend it in this post it's only to boost your
ego. And you were the other "attacker", you attacked my suggestion to
replace spark plugs yearly. You may not agree with that and that is
fine. You attacked the amount of money I "waste" on maintenance. Fine if
you don't want to do maintenance on the same schedule, but you don't
have to brag that you buy high ticket items and go on European
vacations. All you had to do was say something like "I don't change them
yearly, they should last longer than that." Or "I haven't needed to
change my coolant in 5 years and it is still fine." But no, you had to
go and come off sounding like a douche. I'll agree that I may change
some of my fluids more often than needed, but that's my choice.
And for you other people reading this exchange, you should do your
maintenance as you see fit, or at the recommendation of your favorite
service tech. Really what's important here is keeping our cars running
like new and however you go about achieving that is fine.
If you were not offended or jealous, you'd never bring it up. Something
struck a nerve. Maybe it was the realization that you could still have a
maintained automobile and do some extra things in your life.
Attacked? No, I but the money into a perspective that people can
understand. Do you have an unfulfilled desire to travel? Does seeing how
much you spend over the years hurt? I know people that could buy a new car
merely by stopping smoking.
I made no personal attack, but it you want to be a victim, you may.
Yes, but that does not mean I'm not crazy!
My computer died so I'm using my wife's until my new one is ready. Bought a
new computer with the money I saved on not changing spark plugs the last few
I agree that's a little odd. Normally, trouble codes remain for
longer than that, even after the lamp goes out, unless the battery
went dead or was disconnected.
Most faults require two successive failures to turn the lamp on, and
then three successive test pass results for the lamp to be turned
Certain important faults will set the lamp at the first fault.
If there's only been one fault, the code is stored as "pending" and
will be erased if the next test passes. I suppose it's technically
possible that this was an important fault that only occurred once.
Of course, it's also possible that the technician didn't check all
necessary systems (engine and trans) or for whatever reason decided
the thing to do was to clear whatever the code was and simply deny its
existence since the check engine lamp was on.
Stopped by the dealer today and they read the code, which this time was
there and the light was still on. I didn't write down the number, but I
believe he said it was a P2167. It was a "lean" indication and they
suspect the O2 sensor. I take the car in on Thursday to get it fixed.
Actually, didn't know. I left the Sonata at the dealer today and they
now say the problem wasn't the O2 sensor after all and it really IS
reading a lean condition due to a leak at the intake manifold. They say
a new gasket is needed so we shall see.
I can't remember ever having an intake manifold gasket go bad, so I'm
somewhat suspicious that when they pull the manifold to replace the
gasket they will find something more serious such as a cracked or warped
manifold or head mating surface.
I assume this will be a warranty repair given that I'm the original
owner and the car is less than 10 years old and has less than 100,000 miles.
Has anyone else had a 2.4L engine with a failed intake manifold gasket?
hyundaitech, is this a failure mode you see often?
It certainly seems odd to me. I hope it isn't a hint of things to come.
I had a 1984 Honda Accord that was a pretty good car until 4 years of
age and 60,000 miles. It began to systematically self-destruct at that
point and I have not owned anything since that said Honda on it (not
even lawn mowers!).
At least the Sonata has warranty left!!
Interesting. I wonder why it showed after a fill up. I'd have thought
something like that would happen under any circumstances. It does prove
that the shade tree mechanic is a thing of the past unless he has a code
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