ARTICLE; British License Plates Get Chipped,Big Brother Observing

RFID-radio frequency identification,more erosion of your privacy! http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,68429,00.html How does this make you feel?Just curious!

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It is a hopeless method, in America you have clock on and clock off at each junction you have a number plate reader an a gate to ensure each car is logged on to a motorway, when it exit's you log off, if you've done 79mph average you're got right there by the old bill, the old bill will check your id roadside to ensure it's not a clone, there is a side lane for offenders to go down to avoid slowing down the traffic

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And this electronic surveillance doesn't bother you one iota?What if there was,if not already,surveillance in dressing rooms and latrines?Still support being "spied" on?
"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
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Criminals are becoming more dangerous, they are the ones taking liberty away. As Blair said the rules of the games change.

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Criminals do not take away your liberty,you allow your liberty to be taken away! So if Blair imposed that all citizens were to have chips implanted in their arses,would you still play his game? Hell,over here they take finger prints of our children under the guise of safety,but I don't buy it!
"The basis of a democratic state is liberty"
Aristotle
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Meanwhile just read that criminals are being set free because a "word"was left out of the Mranda statement. Too bad government & liberals do not worry about citizens & victims as they do about convicted criminals.

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Steve Rabinowitz wrote:

Convicted criminals equal $$$$$$$$$ for state governments,citizens do not.On average in the US, 1,000,000 people a year are convicted of a felony.So in ten years time,that is 10,000,000 felons and what does that equal in $$$$$$$ ?Profit driven justice!Guilty until proven guilty in some states such as commonwealth.
And now RFID on our vehicles,plus having to pay 10 times the amount of a regular license plate in the name of security?When does it end? Starting to sound like the U.S.S.R., "papers!"
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Those who do not wish to have a chip in their plate will be able to easily defeat it.
All you would have to do is run a strong electric current through the chip and it would burn out.
So the bad guys would not get tracked.
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greek_philosophizer wrote:

Which will more than likely result in a felony!I would imagine when they replace regular plates,no signal will result in a fix it ticket and a fine or both.
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CaptainW116 wrote:

I think you have this backward. While an occasional white-collar felon will pay a fine, most felons have no resources so they don't pay a fine even if one is levied. Further, in the US, it costs more to incarcerate a felon than it would cost to send him or her to the finest college, and of course, incarcerated felons pay little if any taxes. The only incentive for stacking the deck against the accused is to hold down the costs of prosecution, which is why there are so many plea agreements.

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what's this got to do with a news groups on cars?!
Anyway .. what difference does it make. Any surveillance is based on technology. Technology can be hacked, cracked and compromised. It just easier for the government to track lawful people. Unlawful people will always find ways around it or even alter it for there own benefit.
Anyway, liberty as a concept is fine, however, how do you implement it?

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The rules are the Constitution, and it hasn't changed.
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Scooby Doo wrote:

Okay,I'll bite! Amendment 4 of the Bill of Rights
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons,houses,papers and effects,against unreasonable searches and seizures,shall NOT be VIOLATED,and no Warrants shall issue,but upon probable cause,supported by Oath or affirmation,and particulary describing the place to be searched,and the persons or things to be seized."
IMO RFID crosses this ten fold!Not to mention your personal effects at the airport being rummaged through for example and am sure you can think of other examples.
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What? Were are talking about the UK.
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Is that commerial License plates like the US or all of them.
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For truckers at least,it is a dream come true.... The module has all your truck info like register,insurance,operating permits,state stickers,and cargo manafest.The pole at wieght station and checkpoint falshes your red,yellow ,and green on the reciever.(Usually on dash in front of the steering wheel.) Red for pull in... Yellow for slow and wait Green is jump right on by. At the same time as it is getting your truck info ,it brounces off the other checkpoints to see how long ago and where your last check was.Fiqures driving time between points,etc.All in about 10 seconds.Then flags the reciever according what they see.

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