OT New C6 'Vette

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:14:25 -0600, "Keith" wrote something wonderfully witty:

Well if Santa was handing out cars this Christmas and the choice was between the 911 Turbo and a Vette, I am afraid even a die in the wool Vette fan like myself would go for the Porsche. The cars are not equal. I personally don't think anything is the Vette's equal in it's class. There is nothing else in it's class from a Power/Performance/Luxury standpoint. After all the Vette is an American Luxury Sports Car priced thousands below any foreign competitor.

-- "Y'know I remember when things were a lot more fun around here When good was good and evil was evil Before things got so fuzzy"

Don Henley, The Garden of Allah

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 00:16:33 -0600, "Keith" wrote something wonderfully witty:

While I do enjoy working on my cars, nothing is worse then it not being ready for prime time when you need it. As I said in an earlier post if Santa was handing them out I certainly would take a Porsche, but since I like having a varied stable of cars from which to choose from each morning I would rather take the 100K and buy several different types of cars.

-- "Y'know I remember when things were a lot more fun around here When good was good and evil was evil Before things got so fuzzy"

Don Henley, The Garden of Allah

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 00:27:54 GMT, "Mark Jones" wrote something wonderfully witty:

Every time a new version of the Vette makes the scene there are all sorts of comments pro/com about it. The die in the wool fans are disappointed in the changes, others make comparisons to other cars such as you did. Others yet complain they didn't go far enough. They wanted more horsepower, more radical styling, so on and so forth. Personally I was disappoint in the direction they went with the Z06. Originally it was dubbed the Billy-Bob and was supposed to be a stripped down balls out Hotrod with a price within range of more people. Of course that is not what happened.

The new SSR is another example of a good idea gone bad. Gimme a brake a 2.5 ton Roadster Pickup? All the engine in the world isn't going to get that beastie movin down the road. Same thing with the Prowler. Where was the engine for that baby. A V-6, gimme a break.

-- "Y'know I remember when things were a lot more fun around here When good was good and evil was evil Before things got so fuzzy"

Don Henley, The Garden of Allah

On 2 Jan 2004 16:30:36 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com (180 Out) wrote something wonderfully witty:

Or the more things change the more they stay the same. Every thing old is new again. All of the major US manufacturers are getting into the Retro thing. The new Mustang is a direct styling nod to it's 60's ancestors.

I doubt you are ever going to see any Vette in any condition hitting the 2.5K range. Even a totaled one is worth more then that as a sum of it's parts.

The days of buying something for a couple of hundred and then beefing the hell out of the mechanicals aren't 100% gone, but they are fading fast. Try to find any of the cars you just mentioned for sub 3K today.

I went to look at a `72 El Camino SS a guy has for sale here locally. He wants 6k for it and dropped to 4.5 right quick. Mechanically it is about average, but is a rolling piece of Swiss Cheese. I have never seen so much small sections of body rot all over a car as this one.

It even had a rust hole straight through the roof above the drivers left ear. You could here the wind whistling through it. As it sits the car needs at least 4-5k in body work followed buy a complete paint job. As much as I wanted it I had to pass. Putting 10K into it would have made it a 10K car. After getting him down to 4.5K that means I would have had a sunk cost of $14.5K and a 10K resale value. Not a good investment.

-- "Y'know I remember when things were a lot more fun around here When good was good and evil was evil Before things got so fuzzy"

Don Henley, The Garden of Allah

On 2 Jan 2004 18:21:23 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Patrick) wrote something wonderfully witty:

Personally I think if you look at any two cars in a similar class you are going to find some type of similarity. They all play follow the leader at one time or another. The lead just keeps switching. Seems to me Ford is more times then not the driving force in some of these areas. Especially in their SVT arena. After the Lightening everyone seems to be getting into the Sports Truck game. Same goes with the Thunderbird nod to it's Grandpappy and the new Mustangs styling clues going back to the 60's version. Now Mopar & Chevy are doing it as well.

-- "Y'know I remember when things were a lot more fun around here When good was good and evil was evil Before things got so fuzzy"

Don Henley, The Garden of Allah

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 07:32:14 GMT, "Brad" wrote something wonderfully witty:

In a way it is. I mean truly you can only use the maximum available HP occasionally and will end up losing your privileges if you're on it constantly. You certainly don't need a new car to go bracket racing.

I would like to get a 60's series and throw modern mechanicals into it for the reliability and maintainability factors. Saw a guy update a `65 to late 90's technology. Sweet ride. Plus we here in Va have stupid ass personal property tax (PPT) on autos. Lot cheaper to do up an older fully depreciated car then have a new one. You wouldn't believe what the PPT was on my Vette before they started to reduce it. Even after the reduction, between my five autos and two bikes I pay damn near two grand a year in taxes just to own them. Hell one isn't even drivable.

-- "Y'know I remember when things were a lot more fun around here When good was good and evil was evil Before things got so fuzzy"

Don Henley, The Garden of Allah

"ZombyWoof" wrote

I know what your talking about. 1 week ago I picked up a '68 Plymouth Fury III 2 door with a 383 in it. It has 440 heads on it. It also has the 727 torqueflite tranny which, from what I've heard, is a very solid tranny. The body is solid with only one teeny spot of rot on the passenger door where the paint chipped from a past parking lot ding. It's about the size of a pencil eraser. The seller gave me a stock 4bbl intake to drop on the motor at some future point in time. All I need is the carb. This car has alot of potential. Swap in buckets from a Sport Fury. Throw on the 4 bbl intake, get dual exhaust, beef up the suspension, and I've got a bonified Mopar hot rod.

The best part is I only paid $800!! And the car is in better condition than my current daily driver that I paid $1700 for 6 months ago.

Here's a pic of a good example, except mine is gold without the vinyl top

Scott W. '66 Mustang HCS '68 Fury III

"America's Sports Car"

Which one are you talking about.. the Viper, 'Vette, or the Ford GT?

Patrick '93 Cobra '83 LTD

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:46:38 GMT, "Gill" wrote something wonderfully witty:

Go for it dude, she already said old men don't yank her crank though. Better pop your blue V's & hit the hair club for men first if your plan is to get a taste.

-- "Y'know I remember when things were a lot more fun around here When good was good and evil was evil Before things got so fuzzy"

Don Henley, The Garden of Allah

Yeah, that's what i'll do. Really

Well I guess if price isn't considered then I'd say the Ford GT is the better car !! It spanks the vette good.

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so true. That's why you can't compare the vette to a Mustang. The price difference alone makes it a different world. If we leave price out of the equation, I'd say go for ther Ford GT.

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 18:01:16 -0700, "Scott Williams" wrote something wonderfully witty:

Looks a little like my buddies GTX. I forget the year. Car is damn quick for being damn near 40 and still basically stock. It has the

727 in it as well and will catch rubber in the second to third shift. Just a little chirp, but rubber nonetheless. :) If you're not careful you can get it sideways going from first to second.

My neighbor has a Dart with a 340 in it that he wants $1500 for. It's fairly rough cosmetically, but is a fairly strong runner. I had been thinking about buying it this winter as a project. However, I really need a truck so the search for that is currently on.

-- "Y'know I remember when things were a lot more fun around here When good was good and evil was evil Before things got so fuzzy"

Don Henley, The Garden of Allah

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:28:44 -0700, Rein wrote something wonderfully witty:

The price differential between a top of the line Cobra and an entry level Vette isn't really all that much. Now the delta on the Vette and the GT40 is rather substantial. There are not going to be a lot of people going for the GT40.

-- "Y'know I remember when things were a lot more fun around here When good was good and evil was evil Before things got so fuzzy"

Don Henley, The Garden of Allah

Trust me doll, I'm not going anywhere. ^_^ For the most part, I like this newsgroup, and if someone doesn't like the fact I have opinions and speak them occasionally... then too bad for them.

patricia

ah, airhead... hahaha. nice. sticks and stones, loves. I call them like I see them. and many corvette owners (down here in s. fla at least) are middle aged men. just like i see young men in porsches, latino boys in lowriders, guys in hotrods, old geezers in grand marquis (sigh... and my mom has one too) and then of course boys like my silly ex in his lexus. at lights, i tend to look about to see what's around me... its a wise thing to be aware of your surroundings.

oh yes.. about the 25 thing... well... the first big insurence break comes at 25, and by then I figure, i'll have put enough miles on my baby pony, and hopefully, i'll have enough money saved to put a nice downpayment on the car i couldn't have now. give me 6 years, and i'll have my mustang. i've made that promise to myself. and in another 10, i'll have a corvette, and hopefully in 20, i can have my ferarri. dream big babe, other wise... why dream at all? ^_^

also, i never said i was looking for a 40 year old guy... i'm quite happy with guys in my own age catagory, as immature and dumb and lacking in cars as they tend to be.

and neither does the insurence payment on my car, or my tution for college, or anything. don't you dare preach about money to me. sad thing about fancy cars though... so many people are in hock up to their eyeballs... not that i'm saying everyone who has a nice car is in debt, but so many of the people i've known who "had money" meerly had loans... got to love the education you get when you go to school in an area where the people are divided between "has money" "pretends to have money" and "doesn't have money."

i have little to no respect for most of the young people i know who were given brand new expensive cars as 16th birthday gifts, graduation gifts, and the like.... especially when they then destroy the car in an at fault accident, only to have the car replaced with the same thing or better. try going to a prep school for an education on what rich kids drive

ha ha ha. funny. there are no cliffs in miami, so there.

it is not a wise thing to do, driving my car that fast (hell... driving any car that fast on something other than a track), but it can be done (and i paid for it in the scare of my life, but hey, i'm still around to annoy people ^_^)

and have a nice day darling ^_^

patricia

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Crude as ever.

Ignore him, Snowy, this dolt has an inferiority complex where opinionated females are concerned.

Cindy

"ZombyWoof" wrote

It's definitely a pretty car.

I wish! This thing has 2.79's in the rear. Not gonna be chirping anything with those. But it sure cruises well. If I don't watch it closely I end up doing 90 and have NO idea.

Scott W. '66 Mustang HCS '68 Fury III