Re: Why GM Shouldn't Fail (and why hybrids are crap)

I just returned from a 700 mile trip up and across NY State. It

> included mountainous terrain and an average speed of 70+ mph (with the > A/C on). I got 28 mpg all told. What I find amazing is that this is > a 3700 lb plus car with 3 fairly heavy people. The car was an 07 > Malibu Maxx SS with the 3.9L engine. On the other hand, making this > same trip with a Honda Civic Hybrid, I only got about 8 mpg more. I > had to take hills into more consideration as the car was underpowered. > To go with that, I had to leave the A/C off, go slower because the > ultra super low rolling resistance tires tended to skid when braking, > and I got a sore behind in the bargain from being shoved into a tin > can. I think we have and do make wonderful cars.

See now people? I told you, many hybrid customers are unhappy with their crappy hybrids.

For only 4% of a hybrid cost you can have a much better stronger and more efficient vehicle than that of yours. OFS' prices are right, quit complaining about my English and focus on what is practical for you and your family. See when you look for a well-speaking salesman, the result is quite bitter isn't it? Come to see me and speak French or Thai with me.

GasSaver

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residualselfimage1999

Most new cars (from GM anyway) have this function built in to the engine management computer and dashboard display.

No need to buy it again from the Scan Gauge folks or Extra150miles.com.

The weakness is that it is optionally displayed, not by default all the time. And the intervals are not sensible to help as much as possible in tuning your driving habits.

Also, in the owner's manual they do not explain very well if at all how to increase your mileage using the display.

I would hazard an estimate that if all manufacturers would display this information all the time by default, and make it slightly more useful and accurate by doing a running average over a short time period like approx. 3 to 5 seconds, and also educated drivers on how to use it, we would see a vast reduction in gas-guzzling driving habits like speeding, jack-rabbit starts, speeding up to a red light, trying to maintain speed up steep hills (like your stupid cruise control does), and other things that hit you right in the wallet.

By watching the display, but still travelling at a fair clip at the right times, I regularly get 30+ mpg (imp.) in my 2009 Chev Uplander Van.

If you only knew what it was costing you to drive like Jensen Button, we'd never have a gas shortage!

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Happy Trails

Why don't you try a Jetta TDI that gets 50mpg on diesel and will climb those hills with the AC on.

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Hipupchuck

The US car companies are feeding you all full of bullshit. They could easily make a diesel hybrid that could get 80mpg but they WILL NOT!

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Hipupchuck

Problem is US auto doesn't know how to make them. Seriously.

Even Chrysler has Cummins do it. Duramax is a hangover but hardly car material.

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Canuck57

OK Mr. Engineer - please enlighten us... how could they produce this 80 mpg diesel easily? No one else is doing it, but US companies could do it easily? Beyond your bullshit, just what do you have to substantiate this claim?

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Mike Marlow

Get real! If any auto manufacture could build a vehicle, that buyers would want to buy that got 80 MPG, they certainly would built it.

Think about it, dummy, they would control the market with such a vehicle. LOL

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Mike

Too bad they don't make them.

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Hipupchuck

We know American pigs like to waste and pollute as much as they can.

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Hipupchuck
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residualselfimage1999

In message , GasSaver writes

Are you happy to come for a 100 mile drive, brim the tank and if the mileage isn't what a hybrid will give me then charge me nothing?

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Clive

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