Why are all these people knocking GM ?????????

I wish I had that much free time that I could spend it trolling on newsgroups.

The guys that go into other brand NGs, to denigrate that brand, are simply trying to justify to themselves why they spent so much more money to buy the brand they bought, now that they knew it was not worth all the extra money. ;)

mike

You forgot to include the brand you buy, or do you think it will never breakdown? ;)

mike

If they are made in Canada or Mexico then they are not American. Toyota is more American than Ford's Mustang (their Sienna has more American parts) or DCX. The current Big Three is GM, Toyota, Ford.

You forgot to say in my opinion Do you count the majority of Toyotas made in Japan and Canada? Do you include the parts from all over the world that are sent to Canada for assembly as Canadian part of Japanese or American parts?. The fact remains 80% to 85% of all the vehicles GM and Ford sell in the US are made in the US of America parts and sport a '1' as the first number of the VIN Less than half of what Toyota sells in the US are assemble in the US. The ONLY Toyota made in the US with over 70% American parts are those made in the GM/Toyota California plant, like the Pontiac Vibe, that have a '1' as the first number of the VIN. ;)

mike

Mom, Apple Pie and...Toyota?

Once again you forgot to say in my opinion ;)

mike

"Jim Higgins" wrote in >

Hmmm... Funny, at a 90 buck an hour labor rate I've ran into no shortage of imports here to work on.

True and often forgotten. About 50% of Canada's big 2.5 vehicle production is shipped to the USA. Significant Canadian built vehicles, using parts from "anywhere", are the Chrysler Van and 300 lines. Previous models included the Chrysler FWD mid sized cars. I have a '95 Concord built in Canada and my wife has a '01 Sebring built in the USA. I believe the 2.7L engine in my wife's Sebring is built in Mexico.

Objective fact is not an opinion, it is fact. EOD.

Only those incapable of objective evaluation buy Detroit iron, especially the likes of GM.

This crap about top posting is pedantic.

THIS is a top post.

Absolutely bullshit.

It just makes it eaiser to read a post when people post under the previous poster's comments. That's the way I find most helpful anyhow.

Yawn again. You can take your Honda and follow my 5 lessons as well. Well, at least a couple of them.

Anyone can assemble a product in the US, ask Samsung or Sony, yet they are still japanese products. Just follow the money and see where it ends up...Japan. Its funny how so many people want to claim a Toyota or Honda as an American product as if to convince themselve that they are patriotic and not some sellout.

On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:39:46 -0500, 80 Knight got out the hammer and chisel and etched in the wall:

I suppose it would have helped, too, if "hls" had some reference in the post to which was being referred.