My tire/tyre recomendation for 850

"fred" wrote

Yeah, IMO, MXV4+ is one of the worst tires I've ever had. They were OEM on my '00 Accord V6. Their traction and lateral grip was non-existent, and they squealed like pigs every time I tried to take a corner faster, making me look like a rice boy. Snow traction - pretty bad, too. The only thing good about them was that they were rather soft and comfortable - I guess that was the purpose. Considering how much they cost new - it's ridiculous.

Try Pirelli PZero Nero M&S if you're looking for a more performance-oriented all-season tire with good grip.

Regards,

Pete

I've got Energy MXV4+ on the 960, and they seem well suited to the car... They seem to have good grip in general, but no, they aren't a sporting tire and they weren't meant to be either... They're meant for luxury cars (and owners who drive them as such, I suppose). With the 960 they seem to encourage a little power slide from the rear end... which is always good fun (it always generates bewildered looks when people see a 10 year old 960 station wagon driving in a "spirited" manner around a corner or turning at an intersection... At 3/4 the speed limit) They never let the car get ahead of itself tho, they are competant... Never had a problem in wet weather, though I know they aren't perfect wet weather tires.

"Rob Guenther"

Got these for my girlfriend's Jetta last year. They're awesome all around. They tend to get a bit soft on hot summer days, but you won't notice it unless you push them hard. Very impressive in the snow though - much better than my dedicated winter Michelin Pilot Alpins - yet another overpriced and mediocre Michelin product.

Cheers,

Pete

Glad to hear they're good in snow... I replaced some generic Kumho "Touring Radials" with these tires (the Nokians) after nearly spinning out a few times in snow (this made me think that the tires that came on my used car weren't so good even tho they were brand new)... I wanted a good true all season... Glad to hear I think I found it, i'm almost excited for the first snow fall so I can see how they do.

The ONLY downside to these tires are the relatively low treadwear life...

80K Kms I was told... and by the rate they're going I'll be getting 70K Kms if I'm lucky - tho I do corner hard with them... I can see a typical person getting 80-90K (tho a typical person would want almost double that...). Personally I think every few years, or 70K is fine.

They're OEM on some Honda models and pretty well universally despised.

"Rob Guenther"

Well, 70-80K km is a lot in my books. I'm used to getting 30K km from most of my high performance summer tires. There's also a direct relationship between treadlife and grip. Good grip = shorter treadlife, and vice versa. I think the WR offers a pretty good balance of both.

Regards,

Pete

My '95 850T came with the Pirelli P Zero Asimmetrico. They handled nicely but they were soft. (They handled nicely _because_ they were soft, I think.) They wore out very quickly.

I replaced them with the Bridgestone 91V rated Potenza RE720. Excellent handling on wet roads and _much_ more durable.

cheers,

Henry