That depends on where it's done. The parts are a bit more expensive
but labor is where they like to rape you.
A $2000 dollar brake job had to be a complete replacement of
everything including the brake lines and whatever owner gave him that
news is an idiot. The $150 oil changes are apparently a dealer thing
and they claim to do more than just change the oil.
There are so many Hondas on the road (mostly driven by kids) here
that it's not funny. Don't know why you'd refer to them as appliances
but I get the gist of it. They're just another cookie cutter car,
nothing to set them apart from the other 50 just like it in the
I'm sure he'll come back with a whole argument but I'm willing to
say that it's cheaper to have the dealer work on your Honda than your
BMW. BMW owners drive "a fine automobile" and expect to pay more to
keep it in top condition and that allows the dealership to charge a
I thought that too initially, until I heard the prices that the Honda
dealerships are getting these days. I guess their justification is that
the Honda is such a reliable car (and it is) that you should not mind
paying a super-premium to have them work on it.
Of course the cost of brake work at dealerships is a moot point to me
anyway since brake work on *my* cars always happens at the same shop.
It's the one attached to my house (aka my garage). ;-)
Just on a whim, I called the local Honda dealer today and was quoted
approximately $400 for a brake service for a 2004 Camry (my dad's).
This included new pads, machining rotors, inspection and adjustment.
Not sure when they started having to adjust disc brakes but the
avarage car owner wouldn't know the difference. BTW - If the rotors
had to be replaced, the cost went up significantly. Needless to say,
tomorrow I'l drop about $50 (probably less) on pads and we'll change
the brakes. I guess they are charging a bit more these days...
Same here, I do all the work I can on my vehicles. Nice to learn
what makes it tick and how to fix it when it breaks. Feels good not to
be at the mercy of the mechanic although you may still be at the mercy
of the hook pilot somewhere down the road.
An interesting thing to note there is that they would even consider
"machining" the rotors. Most dealerships would never turn rotors these
days. They claim it is not worth their time and prefer to just put on
new disks. I wonder if they intended to do any machining at all, or if
they were just planning on taking your money for that and slapping on a
new set of pads.
You have to be so cynical these days...
Actually, everywhere in the world except North America, it was sold as the
Honda NSX. Acura only existed in the US and Canada until very recently.
Actually, I am not 100% sure that Honda ever followed through on their plan to
establish the Acura brand in Europe.
See this webpage http://world.honda.com/NSX/history
Notice that nowhere on it is the word Acura.
91 318is (better than any Honda ever made!)
Don't consider the Prelude an appliance. At 2900 lbs with a 200 hp 2.2 ltr
VTEC it is a strong runner with first-rate brakes and great performance. It
will give most 3 series a good run for the money. The new Civic SI I
recently drove is similar in execution. As far as ending up with a Honda,
it is telling. During the 60s I owned an 64 XKE, a Sunbeam Tiger (modified)
that I autocrossed with great success while assigned duty in Japan, a couple
of Corvettes (69 and 71), etc, etc. I became a real Honda fan when I moved
from Norton and Triumph motorcycles to the early 4 cylinder 750s Honda
imported to the US -- after I saw it at the Tokyo motor show in 68. BMWs --
tested a 2002 in 74 and did not like it. So, I thought I would look at it
again. But, as appliance driver, I guess I don't deserve a BMW by your
Well, it's not a club, and therefore is not exclusive. But you have to
admit there is a rather significant premium ($$) paid to be a BMW owner
compared to a Honda in terms of initial investment. If you (or anyone
lese for that matter) are not able to appreciate a difference
(ostensibly for the better) in the more expensive car, why on earth
would you pay the premium?
So I guess the exclusivity is that not everyone can appreciate that
Actually, the early Preludes were pretty good handling cars. In spite
of being FWD.
The best handling FWD cars were, IMHFO, late 60's Minis. 1079 Cooper
S's in particular. I had two of them at different times back then,
and there was nothing else on the road back then that I had reason to
BMW eliminated the underhood connector on most models starting in 2000,
and by 2001 it was history. ALL diagnostics is now done via the OBD-II
connector inside the car.
Reset of the oil and service lights is done via the two buttons on the
instrument cluster. I'd suggest Googling for the info.
No tool is needed, no wire to possibly burn up the wiring harness..
I believe there might be a way to reset the light through the
combinations of hitting the gas pedal and turning the ignition switch. I
am not sure about this, but it is worth investigating.
You can buy a tool through Bavarian Auto or BMP in Texas that allows you to reset
the way the dealers do. The tool is about $60. or $70., a small price to pay to
the agravation. I've reset my own service lights for 5 years this way.
paid for itself several times over
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