Transmision Fluid Temperature (TFT) Sensor Trouble

If any of you Trany guys have some information for me on this one I would appreciate it.

I have a 1997 K1500 with the 4L60-E 4 speed automatic transmission.

The other day,my check engine light came on as I was driving home from work. I own a Autotap OBDII diagnostics system, so I connected up my laptop and found a DTC of P0712. My shop manual and the Autotap called this a "Fluid Temperature Sensor CKT Low input". I put up a graph of the sensor with the engine stopped, and the voltage was right around 3 volts corresponding to a temperature of about 165 deg F. The voltage graph was a flat line and all seemed normal. I cleared the DTC and started up the engine. Again all seemed normal until I revved up the engine. As soon as I revved the engine, the graph for the TFT dropped to zero for a couple of seconds, then came back up to 3 volts. I repeated this many times with the same results. I looked in the shop manual and found this circuit to be a sourcing circuit that uses a themister to pull the voltage to ground. I assumed at this point that I had a wiring harness problem and a wire must be touching to ground periodically. But I went through the entire wiring harness, pulling, pushing, etc and could not make the voltage drop. I then restarted the engine and got the same results, the voltage dropped to zero above idle speed.

I then started messing with the transmission and found that the voltage was also dependent on what gear the transmission was in. In reverse, the signal was zero all the time. In drive, the signal was 3 volts, but was not very stable (spiked down to zero every once in a while).

I am convinced that the problem is in the transmission, but I am not sure what it might be. I did find that the thermister is mounted on the same circuit board as the Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch (TFP).

So my questions:

  1. Has anyone had a similar failure with this sensor?
  2. Has anyone had troubles with the internal wiring harness in the transmission?
  3. Any other suggestions would be great.

I plan to drop the pan in the next couple of days (about ready for a fluid / filter change anyway) and I will take a look at the wiring harness and the sensor board. If I do not see anything strange, I may just replace the circuit board (I have not checked on the price yet).

Thanks for any help.

Wayne

Reply to
Wayne R. Roller
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1) no 2) yes 3) order a new harness and replace it
Reply to
TranSurgeon

Thanks for the info.

When you say you have been having trouble with the wiring harness, what trouble? What should I look for? How difficult is it to replace?

Reply to
Wayne R. Roller

harness gets hot, insulation cracks and flakes off

vibration wears holes in insulation

if the filter is improperly installed, the wiring can be pinched

Reply to
TranSurgeon

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