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1994 Caravan 3.3 low speed idle.

I have a 1994 Dodge Caravan with 240K on it. It recently developed a low speed idle problem, where the vehicle would almost stall. It was OK at startup, but once it warmed up, the engine would idle below 500 RPM, and cycle between 400 and 700 rpm rythmically. After cleaning the throttle body, replaceing the Automatic Idle Speed motor, and Crankshaft engine speed sensor, the problem persisted. Coincidentally, the vehicle had developed a slow fuel leak in the gasoline line, in the return fuel line under the passenger seat.. on the frame. Low and behold, once I had the lines replaced, the idle problem disappeared. I assume that the slow leak in the return line to the gas tank posed a vacuum leak problem that upset the sensors. Unfortunately, no computer codes to indicate any problems. The vehicle has been amazing, yes I had the tranny done under warranty at 80K, and a tranny speed sensor replaced at 160K, but the vehicle has literally no rust, and still gives 30 MPG (Imperial on the highway). I only wish I could find another one. The ES had lower body plastic panels that protect it from stone chips etc. I guess I can expect some gas line, brake line issues after 14 years. Hopefully, some others will find the replacement diagnostics helpful.. Drive on

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Prospector
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I owned the same vehicle new. And this vehicle is still on the road Today. My opinion the 93 and 94 Minivan was the best Chrysler ever had.

Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech

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maxpower

Any reason why the 1995 was not included too, since it was the final year of that style before the 1996 re-design? I have a 1993 that I purchased new in Nov 1992. Other than the transmission, starter, and AIS motor, it has been good. The paint is now starting to fall off. It has been garaged all it's life, so it just took longer.

Sounds like the OP has already checked the usual things.

-KM

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kmath50

Any reason why the 1995 was not included too, since it was the final year of that style before the 1996 re-design? I have a 1993 that I purchased new in Nov 1992. Other than the transmission, starter, and AIS motor, it has been good. The paint is now starting to fall off. It has been garaged all it's life, so it just took longer.

Sounds like the OP has already checked the usual things.

-KM

The 95 was the same and included

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maxpower

This makes me fell all warm and fuzzy inside as I am in the process of buying a 1995 Caravan 3.3 right now ;) It probably needs a power steering pump but that is small beans considering I am getting it for $800

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Daniel Who Wants to Know

Coincidentally,

Ummm Don't forget, It all depends on how well the vehicle was taken care of by the previous owner. Especially oil Changes

Glenn

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maxpower

disappeared.

I'd buy a '95 Caravan for $800 if the body was clean, straight, and interior was in good condition, and everything ran. Even if the oil wasn't changed well, and your only going to get another 30K miles out of it, for that amount you can afford to put in a rebuilt engine and rebuilt transmission and end up with a van that's almost as good as a brand new one.

Ted

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Ted Mittelstaedt

I got the van and upon further inspection has power almost everything (driver's seat, mirrors, windows, locks, rear vent windows) /w the trip computer (MPG, compass, temp, etc) but it needs plugs and wires and a few gremlins worked out such as a new brake light switch as they won't shut off unless I pull the fuse and it needs a radiator. I am happy with it as the nitrogen charged cylinders for the back gate are still good. It is not AWD and doesn't have the Infinity sound.

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Daniel Who Wants to Know

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I've had that happen with both my vans. I bought a brand new (aftermarket) switch for the '94 T&C - it didn't fix the problem. I then swapped the new switch with the old switch in the '95 T&C and the problem went away in -both- vans.

One hint - instead of pulling the fuse, try putting your foot under the brake pedal and pulling up with it and see if the light goes out.

The enginering on the brake light switch is not the best - and enclosed switch for this job is really stupid. Most cars make do with an open switch which makes it really simple to fix by bending the contact the needed amount.

Get one from a wrecker and flush it out with a garden hose. Easy fix.

No loss. On the real older vans - I think before '92, the Infinity system was really nice, it used (among other things) polypropolene drivers in the doors. By '94 Chrysler had started cheapening it down, the speakers in the door were not as good. The '96 redesign moved the amps from the speakers to a main box which pretty much gutted the entire Infinity concept.

The biggest problem with the 93-95 Infinity system is that there was not adequate audio separation between the subwoofers and the midrange tweeters. You get very bad distortion when playing anything with heavy base in it (ie: rap music)

If you really like good music then pull the speakers and radio and put in an aftermarket setup. On the non-Infinity systems this is pretty easy.

Ted

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Ted Mittelstaedt

I meant to say that not having the Infinity system was a good thing to me because I plan to go aftermarket :) I am starting a new thread because I feel I have sort of hijacked this one.

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Daniel Who Wants to Know

WARNING:

I had a PERFECTLY maintained 1994 GC with the 3.3

When a 16 year old blew a stop sign and blasted into my van, they wrote it off. Despite ALL receipts totaling almost $10,000 over 4 years, the "adjusted" value of the van was $2900. I had to threaten a lawsuit to get $3500.

My insurance company did not count ANY maintneance that was done more than a year prior to the accident. How conveinient, seeing as the very first things I had to do was a tranny rebuild and the head gasket! The extra $$$$ above the $2900 "book value" was for the spanking new steering rack that had been put in about 2 months before the accident.

If you want to buy it for $800 and drive it until it drops, then fine. But if you intend to fix it up, be aware that you could lose most of the $$$ you put into it should the vehicle be involved in an accident.

The only reason I did it in the first place was that I had no credit after my divorce, so I could buy an OK van that was serviceable over time. This allowed me to budget for repairs, and do them over time while still having a vehicle.

But now that my credit is rebuilt, I would NEVER do that again. Car insurance is a racket and a rip off. If they can find a way to screw you, they will.

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NewMan

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