2500/3500 4x4 Front Hubs Failing?

From an earlier thread:

>OK, leaving for the flea market this AM... >> >>About four miles from house, at 50 or so, get a rrriiiiiiittttt-clunk. >>Stop and check, nothing obviouls. The rrriiiiiiiitttt sound is fast >>(much faster than once per tire revolution). Once the clunk happens, >>all is quiet for the rest of the trip. >> > >I hate to leave a thread (I've started) without resolution... >So here it is: > >The right front hub failed. The left one failed in February, >now the right. > >I will start another thread, I know Chrysler had a recall on >hubs (not 2004s) and I'm wondering if anyone else is having the >same problem. IMHO, the odds that two hubs fail, for the same >reason (clearly lack of lubrication) is very suspect given the >other recall.

Ok, anyone else seeing this type of failure? It bothers me as if the hub fails completely the wheel can come off, and there is a clear risk of loss of control.

Chrysler did have a recall on other years, but it seems to me that they are still 'being cheap' on lubrication on these hubs.

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PeterD
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Not likely... the rear half of the hub is bolted to the knuckle with four bolts, and the front half is clamped to the rear half via the axle shaft and nut. For the wheel to come off, the hub would have to either rip from the knuckle, or the axle would have to break.

Reply to
Tom Lawrence

How many miles on the truck?

Reply to
Bill

Axel will slide out a bit, which would not be a pretty sight. BTW, 'wheel coming off' was Chrysler's term, not mine!

But I'm not about to test the theory, but if anyone wants, I'll gladly install by dead hubs on their truck!

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PeterD

Left hub failed at 32K, right at 42K. The big jump in four months was because I had to make two round trips (3-4K each) to Florida in that period (thank goodness these didn't fail on my trips!)

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PeterD

Guess I wasn't paying attention. My 04 plowed snow, made around 6 round trips from MA to FL with no issue's. Not that it helps your situation but I wasn't aware of a potential problem or the tsb.

R
Reply to
Roy

I've had to replace mine on my '01 2500 gasser but it was at about

125,000 or so miles. Had I known what I know now I would have opted to replace the hubs with the aftermarket locker hubs I found that I can actually service the bearings on instead of having to replace the entire hub.
Reply to
Carolina Watercraft Works

Interesting, I don't show any servicable parts in the hub (can't find bearings or seals listed anywhere for the fronts), and I'm not sure I'd want to mess with it. Life's too short.

$391 for the new hub, just got off the phone while I was typing the reply. Should have to tomorrow PM.

I've saved both of the failed hubs, and stuck them in my 'dead parts' storage building.

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PeterD

The hubs with serviceable bearings is an aftermarket setup that also has locking front hubs. By being able to unlock the front axles your front tires will spin freely and not offer the rolling resistance which will ultimately result in better fuel economy and less expensive servicing of the front hubs.

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Carolina Watercraft Works

Ah, cool. Wish I had known about them when the first one failed!

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PeterD

Reply to
Steve Lusardi

They are the same idea as the Warn hub of years gone by. If your going to r&r one I'd suggest doing both and converting them to manual.

R
Reply to
Roy

Neat idea. Don't like that you lose ABS though.

Reply to
Steve W.

On pre 2000.

Reply to
Roy

You don't lose the ABS. There are two different setups. One without ABS and one with ABS depending on which you need.

Reply to
Carolina Watercraft Works

Yep, that too... Last summer, thought they failed the previous winter. Warranty (since expired) covered it. Both U joints failed at under 25K miles.

I'm beginning to understand why I'm fustrated: front axle U joints, and hubs all failed and for a very preventable reason: improper lubrication from the factory.

I may plow but I don't beat the truck...

Reply to
PeterD

Pre 2000 you lose the ABS. At least that is what the add says.

Reply to
Steve W.

my 2001 2500 4x4 has 160k on the originals with no issues yet. my 97 1500

4x4 with 300k is still on all original front end parts except rotors and brake pads. the best thing i ever did for that truck was neuter the antilock brakes. that truck wouldn't stop a load for love or money before. once we neutered the abs it stopped better and i started getting an extra 10k between brake services. michael
Reply to
nunya

Interesting, I don't have any problems with ABS, even towing a large non-braked trailer. Mine's a 2004. IMHO 2001 was a good year for Chrysler, but they went downhill in the later years quickly.

I forgot in my original posts, my ball joints have also failed at 30K miles. WTF? Another non-greasable component failing!

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PeterD

None of my other Dodge vehicles had brake issues but the 97 wouldn't stop even if you paid it to with any kind of load. It was eating a set of pads and rotors every 20K. Once I disconnected the antilock stuff it started stopping a load like it should and front brake service interval went to 30k. Some may think this is too often but this truck really gets abused for a 1/2 ton. michael

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nunya

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