360 thermostat location

Dammit Joe, you beat me to it. :-)

If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving

LOL, complete BS. Do you think that they have either the time, motivation, or permission to take the vehicle apart to look??? All they will do is say you are running cold, tell you that you need to get it fixed, and fail you.

Here's a tip - DON'T FEED THE GREASEMONKEY!

BEEKEEP

But that wouldn't have been Gary being Gary. He is what he is.

beekeep

Actually, in a lot of states vehicles with a GVWR of 8800 and over are not subject to emissions testing. So, in NC it isn't even an issue for any sort of law enforcement agency.

Hey Joe....a kill-file is a great thing to have for newsgroups.

ROFLMAO...that's the truth beekeep. I'll heed that one.

Actually, since all ya can do is swap plugs and plug wires, and you cannot :change timing, fueling, vacuum lines, etc, its not messing with emissions at all.

Assuming you were correct, we'd have to include air filters, air intake mods (K&N anyone?) injector changes, PCM chipping, shift kits, exhaust mods of almost any sort, tire size changes.....

"Carolina Watercraft Works" wrote in news:uUxGe.40054$ snipped-for-privacy@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

Down here in SoFla we don't have any kind of inspection let alone emissions testing. Basically, if it's titled, licensed, and insured, it's on the road legally.

"Max Dodge" wrote in news:1ayGe.374$DJ5.189@trnddc07:

Sure it is. If you put the wrong plugs in you'll screw up your emissions big time. So what's the inspection guy gonna do, pull a plug to check if you've got the right ones in?

Indeed. Shows you how ridiculous this whole thing is.

Bottom line is that if the stuff coming out of the pipe doesn't trip the sensor, you're ok. No way in hell is anybody going to check every single emission-related component on every single vehicle.

"Carolina Watercraft Works" wrote in news:JVxGe.40055$ snipped-for-privacy@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

Nah, it's fun to read everything.

Um, yeah, ok, sure......

Actually, PA has just enacted legislation to do exactly that with a "visual inspection". Now, since its still up to private enterprise to do the inspections......They may or may not check everything, including the thermostat. Those new handheld thermometer guns are wonderful, aren't they?

I'll readily agree its ridiculous. But the fact is, if they actually enforce the regs (and someone WILL at some point do exactly that), then the thermostat is fair game. What I see here is a bunch of people saying, "well, yeah, it might be considered against the rules, if they catch us." Great, so for no appreciable gain, and to the possible detriment of the PCM programming, y'all are gonna change the 'stat? Ten degrees is worth that much trouble? (and I mean the hassle of changing the stat, not the bullshit regs) In some cases, I suppose it might be.

There are two levels of tune available with the hypertech, 89 and 91 octane. I tried them both. 89 made a huge difference over stock, and got better fuel mileage.

NY Does on vehicles that are tested. The new computer system actually helps in that respect since it can bring up data on what is supposed to be on the vehicle in regards to emissions controls. Then you just look it over and see if those parts are there.

As for mods that are considered tampering. Chips, Injector changes, Exhaust mods ahead of the cat., SOME air intake kits, Thermostat altering are on the list. NY now plugs into your vehicle and runs it. They check to see what parameters are out of spec. and how far. They also look at trouble codes and drive cycles, IF for example you just cleared a trouble code and haven't driven through a drive cycle they can make you take it out and drive it and retest. Upstate has just started with the onboard testing of vehicles with OBD ports. I can see the full dyno testing coming real soon.

".boB" wrote in news:42eac3e9$0$5357$ snipped-for-privacy@news.usenetmonster.com:

Thanks for the info.

"Max Dodge" wrote in news:WjzGe.7677$W%5.7032@trnddc05:

Uh, yeah, hullo...

Guess I'll never live in PA. No loss.

"Steve W." wrote in news:42ead605$1 snipped-for-privacy@spool9-west.superfeed.net:

And I'll never live in NY either. Again, no loss.

wrong, Brainiac

you are not changing to a non-specified part

try again

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