That would be ridiculous, not because of cost or time, but because there is
They retest after a "point" accumulation, if you fail, or if you acquire
more points beyond the limit before a retest, they suspend the license.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
I just gave up my Pennsylvania license for a Georgia one yesterday. I had it
for 23 years and haven't taken a test since I first got it. I did all of my
renewals through the mail so they issued me "valid without photo" licenses.
They even put my out of state addresses on my driver's license and vehicle
registrations. The only test that Georgia made me take was an eye test. I
was in and out of the DMV with my new license in 15 minutes. It was just too
Yep... same here in NJ. Heck, I'm sure glad they made sure I could
parallel park without dinging another vehicle's bumper or scuffing the curb,
before handing me a document that qualified me to operate a 26,000lb vehicle
in heavy traffic at 65MPH (well, 55MPH back then) at night.
The scariest part of my first driving test in PA was the three-point
turn. I didn't even know what it was and had never done it, but
successful completion of the three-point turn was to be the deciding
factor on whether or not I could take my car on the highway solo.
The only other times I had to take a test was on my motorcycle in Omaha,
where the officer stood in the parking lot and watched me ride the bike
2 blocks away and return without falling off, and then the CDL in TX,
which was actually pretty thorough.
The state trooper made me do my three-point turn twice. He didn't like the
way I did it the first time. I was driving my mom's VW Rabbit during my
test. Those things can turn in a very tight circle, so I didn't bother
stoping and backing up. I just made a u-turn in the stall. He told me I had
to at least stop and back up a little bit.
Where do you get the 30% devaluation from? My 2000 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4
took out a 95 Camaro, and a 97 Cavalear in Jan 03, when the kid in the
uninsured Z-28 turned in front of me and there was no place for me to
go. The Camaro's front end was taken off, and the woman in the Cavalear
had to be cut out, the car was too "tweaked" for the doors to open, I
had hit her left rear corner at about 50, and launched her over 100'
down the shoulder of the road. She wasn't hurt, the kid in the Z-28
wasn't hurt, but I was, mostly from the second impact, when the airbags
After $11,000+ of repairs, my Sierra still had issues, mostly
electrical, related to the crash, and after taking it back to the
bodyshop about a dozen times, I pretty much had had enough. I was going
to buy another Sierra, but the dealer played games and I went to Dodge,
that was what I really wanted anyway.
The trade in was the same at both dealers, $15,000, about $500 less than
a friend had received for his 2000 Sierra (They stickered about a
hundred apart, mine was more) that had never been wrecked and wasn't
"doggy smelling", like mine was. They knew about my wreck, it wasn't all
that hard to tell anyway. His truck and mine were pretty close, milage
and wear wise, in fact we had both just replaced the driver's seat,
under warranty due to it splitting. Both were midlevel trim, mine was
black his was blue.
If your claim was true, I would have only expected to get about $10K. I
expected to take some sort of hit, but the salesman shook his head, and
said it was fixed right, and they had no problem giving me 15K on it.
The list of parts replaced on mine was three pages long. The entire
drivetrain and suspension on the front drivers side, quarter panel,
driver's door, front bumper, wheel and tire, were all replaced with new
stuff. State Farm insurance was great, no complaints, but the body shop
was a joke( I picked it, not them). When I got it back, I basically had
no front brakes, and nearly went out onto a busy highway when I pulled
out of the dealer's driveway.
By the time I was done with the body shop, I wouldn't have believed me
if they told me the sun was coming up the next morning.
That sounds about right, at least with a couple of weasels I have tried
to do business with. I couldn't believe a couple were even seriously
expecting me to go for them..
The amount one guy offered me trade in on two vehicles was less than I
got for one of them (86 Iroc Z28) after parking it in front of my
friend's store that's at a hugely busy intersection. I sold it the night
I parked it there. The other one, an 88 S10 Blazer was sold a short time
later to the friend above, who had it until recently when after almost
200K, two times being trashed inside when stolen, and a pretty good
wreck, he sold it for way more than a sane person would pay..
If I would have taken the deal the weasely dealer offered, I would have
lost about $7500, what I got for the Iroc.
Hmm, I have to wonder if it looked bad for it's age/milage, or
something. I have had a few friends trade trucks that had been wrecked
badly enough to pop the air bags, and none of them took a huge hit, and
as far as I know the dealers all knew about the wrecks..
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