HOW SO???? when was the last time you seen a "criminal" say OH!!! I'm
resisting arrest, driving 120 mph in a 35mph school zone in the wrong
you realize there are laws on the safe and responsible use of an
automobile, right? how well have those worked out in regards to those that
don't or wouldn't follow the laws?
WELL! your right, someone shoots at me, your damn straight I'm going to
You're an idiot. The evidence has been posted many, many times right
here in this ng. States that have embraced CHL, (you have to OWN a
gun before you can carry it), have seen the violent crime stats drop
time and time again.
Stick to what you know. I have no idea what that is, but it certainly
isn't environmental issues, alternative energy or guns, which is what
you have wasted my time arguing about.
Ok, here is one for you all. We all know that each state holds their own
laws for buying, owning and carrying hand guns, example, I can buy, own and
carry in AZ with out a permit, a cool off period, etc. I can not however
even transport into NY said hand gun in ANY manner as I do not own a NY
issued permit or a federal trades permit.
What would you all feel if some one were to suggest a more "even" federal
law on this issue?
Such as a federally issued permit goo ANYWHERE in the US?
Required renewal every few years?
A manditory and renewable hand gun safety course?
Maybe, I maybe wrong as when I bought my hand guns I was still in the Army.
All I had to do was pick it out, show my mil id, a copy of my orders
assigning me to an installation in the state and give them the money. I do
seem to recall though some folks I worked with since I have been out buying
and leaving with in the same day. I could be wrong..
It was a federal law that came in to play with "assult rifles." How
could having a "unified" nation wide standard hand gun ownership and
carrying laws be harmful, be unconstitutional or anything else but
useful to many people?
| Ok, here is one for you all. We all know that each state holds
| laws for buying, owning and carrying hand guns, example, I can
buy, own and
| carry in AZ with out a permit, a cool off period, etc. I can not
| even transport into NY said hand gun in ANY manner as I do not own
| issued permit or a federal trades permit.
| What would you all feel if some one were to suggest a more "even"
| law on this issue?
| Such as a federally issued permit goo ANYWHERE in the US?
| Required renewal every few years?
| A manditory and renewable hand gun safety course?
Go with it...I would only add to your renewal requirements etc,
everyone purchasing a gun would be charged an additional fee that
would pay for that mandatory course on gun safety and a practical
class in firing for proficiency (need not make one a dead eye Dick).
When you are dissatisfied and would like to go back to youth,
Why? Make the person applying for the permit pay the class and range fees
(just like it works now in all states that issue CCW's and have a training
requirement). Once you have the training and certification, why the need to
keep paying for every subsequent purchase?
Nope, it won't - because criminals don't worry about silly little gun laws.
See, here's the crux of the problem here: unless firearms are banished from
the planet, the criminal element will have weapons to use against their
victims. And if you can't completely eliminate the problem, then the next
best thing is to level the playing field a little more.
Want a real-world example? Japan bans all civilians from owning firearms,
except for hunters. Ammunition is very tightly controlled, and handguns are
absolutely banned. Therefore, there shouldn't be any gun violence, right?
Then why was the mayor of Nagasaki shot and killed yesterday, by a civilian,
with a handgun? Didn't he know that handgun was illegal for him to have?
Oh yeah, he didn't care - SINCE HE WAS ABOUT TO COMMIT MURDER.
Using the logic that banning guns will prevent gun crime, one could argue
that had they painted a big 'No Parking' zone in front of the Murrah
building, Timothy McVeigh wouldn't have blown it up.
Key word here was ANY. meaning that IF they are BANNED there will be NO
gun violence. his example holds true. they are banned and there was gun
violence. thus banning guns are not the answer, never has been, never
"The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
-U.S. Constitution, 2nd amendment
Name any regulation for any crime of any kind that has 100% success?
Does that mean we should just make everything legal because no
regulation stops anything 100%?
Hmm...thats the solution!! Make everything legal then there will be no
crime at all!
that is not what I'm saying so don't try to spin my words.
what i am saying is that banning guns simply doesn't stop gun crime. they
are criminals and will always have access to guns. if you ban guns then
gun black market only gets bigger.
I'm not looking for 100% success its not going to happen but what i am
looking at is NO FURTHER INFRINGEMENT ON OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
Hitting what you aim at...now that's my idea of gun control.
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