HELP!!Mod to 2001 1500 Quadcab for towing 22' motorboat

You really need to step within the realm of reality Gary. The 60 seconds that I gave is really about 4 times the actual time it takes to pull a boat up the ramp (at least all of the ones that I used) and why would you ever use full throttle? If the ramp it that steep or the truck is that under powered for the boat that you are trying to launch, then even a trans cooler is not going to help you, not to mention that if you really needed full throttle, I doubt that you would ever get enough traction to pull the boat out (even with 4 wheel drive).

YOU need to come over to our local lake and watch (and listen) some Sunday evening

but hey, YOU know it all, YOU advise everyone on their transmission problems, I'll just sit back and punch holes in YOUR advice from here on out, OK ?

go for it bucko, you seem to know almost as much as 'Front pump' Snoman

God forbid anybody disagree with you on anything. Your 60 second wide open stall condition just makes no sense. IF the truck cannot move under full throttle, then it will NEVER pull the boat up the ramp, never mind 60 seconds. Now I see that there were two others that also didn't agree with what you said but I see no negative response from you to them, why not??? I also said that it was my O P I N I O N that if the transmission cannot deal with some strain on occasion then it should not be in a truck, not a recommendation to anyone and others have agreed. Grow up dude.

LMAO....I get a kick out of watching idiots on ramps myself since I spend so much time on lakes. But using common sense and proper procedure is the most unused factors people need while towing and getting up steep ramps. Bottom line is that if you abuse your truck it's going to fail on you.

choice,

We are actually in partial agreement here but this is also the reason why much earlier in the thread I stated to regear the truck because though the towed mileage may be short to ramp, the stress of the ramp can be high and a tranny can realy heat up FAST in a heavy stall and deeper gears do two things, the tranny has to product less torque to move the load and therefore less heat and strain too and the deeper gears gets tranny off of stall in the converter sooner and at a lower speed which equals less heat too and longer life. Boat ramp duty with a big heavy boat is hard service, especaily with a CC 1/2 ton truck not reallt geared for the load because it has the load of the truck too and since boat is likely a long term envestment, a little more money to regear tow vehcial is well spent to enhance its abilties and relaibilty and enable owner to go on a few hunderd miles trip with boat sometimes if he wants to without concern for failures. I personally have no place in my driveway for a truck that is all look and no tow as that is one of the reason I hae a truck to begin with.

the transmission cannot and does not 'produce torque'

please, try to be precise in your explanations

Actuallt they do, they produce more torque at a reduced RPM by mulitplication through gear and stall ratio so it is producing a high torque output at a lower RPM than is possoible without.

actually, they do not

the converter (think about the name) takes higher RPM, lower torque input and converts it to lower RPM, higher torque output

the transmisison cannot 'produce' any torque, but the torque converter does make the above conversion; hence the name: TORQUE CONVERTER

Must you always be an asshole? While it does not "produce" torque, it does deliver it to the rest of the drive train. Changing the gear ratio like he said WILL reduce the amount of torque the transmission will have to deliver so what he said is still valid. What is not valid is the ridicules gearing he recommends for what amounts to not that much work and the way it will kill the trucks mileage for little benefit.

Which is E X A C T L Y what the transmission does, just by a different method. BTW, I hope that you do realize that as the turbine reaches the stator speed, the torque multiplication is gone sort of like the final gear ration of 1 to 1 in non-overdrive transmissions. Both the torque converter and transmission are nothing more than torque transmission and modification devices.

LOL, what an idiot. Please explain exactly how the TC makes torque. The fact is Gary that the only thing that "makes" torque is the engine so now you are as wrong as you claim SnoMan to be, LOL!

Where did he say it made torque? I believe he said "conversion". Clay

Conversion of what from what? His words were "The transmission cannot 'produce' any torque, but the torque converter does make the above conversion" which sounds to me like the TC is converting something into torque or IOW, producing torque and how is this any different than the gears of the transmission?

modification

Jesus, Mary, Joseph, all 12 apostles and pontius F*cking Pilate, you are a dense asshole

first off the realtionship your are referring to is berween turbine and IMPELLER, not stator

and by the way, Braniac, the turbine can only reach about 94% of impeller speed

you need a lesson in reading comprehension, BoneHead

'the torque converter makes the above conversion' refres to the statement in the preceeding paragraph, namely:' the converter (think about the name) takes higher RPM, lower torque input and converts it to lower RPM, higher torque output'

God Damn It, you are one stupid f*ck, do you realize how easy it is to disembowel your ass, over and over again ?

Nice language, little angry biy.

My mistake, wrong name but the relationship still holds.

And even there, any torque multiplication is gone and since just about ALL factory torque converters are locking now, your 94% number is no longer true.

No, you need one in both sentence structure and transmission theory it seems.

Which is E X A C T L Y what the transmission does in first and second gear, asshole, which makes you contrast between the transmission and the TC as far as torque completely meaningless and as usual, incorrect. Hell, even in reverse the transmission reduces RMP and increases torque while reversing the direction. You may know how to rebuild a transmission, but you seem to be intent on proving just how little you really know about them.

Only in your tiny immature mind. Now please explain exactly how the torque increase from the TC is any different than the torque increase from the transmission in its lower gears. Now I don't want to hear how it is done differently, just how the result is in any way different and try to keep the language on an adult level for a change.

This from the same guy who didn't know the difference between an impeller and a stator? :)

I know the difference but said the wrong name, get over it.

Prove it :)

RED HERRING ALERT !!!!! WHOOP_WHOOP_WHOOP !!!!!!!!!

where, exactly, did I say it was different ?

for that matter, where was the gear reduction ever mentioned, except by you ?

my entire reply was based on the erroneous statement, specifically the last

"> We are actually in partial agreement here but this is also the reason

he said that the 'tranny' 'produces' torque (actually he said 'products', but we'll let that pass since I've already told him he needs to be precise in his wording)

I said no, the transmission does not 'produce' torque, but the converter changes high-rpm/low torque output of the engine to lower-rpm/higher-torque output

NOWHERE did he or I mention gear ratio, he said (once more since you have problems comprehending things) that 'the tranny has to produce less torque'

the 'tranny' (God, will you folks grow up and call it a transmission, fer Chrissakes !) cannot 'produce torque'.......it can convert it, in the converter, or it can change ratios between input and output shafts and thus convert hi-R/lo-T input to low-R/hi-T output, but it CANNOT PRODUCE torque, only a power source such as the engine can do that

now, study up, there will be a test in the morning which will count as 50% of your total grade

Bite me :-)

If you do not think that it is different, then why did you bring up the torque converter at all? Sounds like backspin to me.

The whole point of this argument has to do with gear reduction Gary, please follow along.

lower-rpm/higher-torque

WTF does this even mean Gary. Like I said MULTIPLE TIMES, the transmission does this as well in its lower gears so what exactly is your point here?

Sorry Gary, but you really are not very good at spin. Don't try to change the subject to some garbage about gear ratios. You did say that the TC converts from a high RPM to a lower RPM and increases torque. A transmission does the same thing, just by a different method. Maybe he meant to say "has to PROVIDE less torque" which is correct.

Where exactly are you trying to spin this? You keep talking about the TC but who cares? What exactly does the TC have to do with the topic at hand? Do you actually know where the TC gets its name from? Perhaps you should go and look it up.

LOL, I would do a little studying yourself there dude.