>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:19:58 -0700, "Budd Cochran" > SPAM.net> wrote: >>
>>>
>>>> Suddenly, without warning, Budd Cochran exclaimed (29-Oct-06 10:43 PM):
>>>>> OPINION:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't help with the truck, but for explanation of the Aboriginal
>>>>> situation, their status is akin to that of the Native American ( >>>>> Amerind)
>>>>> in that they've been mistreated over-run, subjugated, to the point of
>>>>> losing their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their >>>>> homeland,
>>>>> the white man.
>>>>>
>>>>> Living in the Southwest US, I meet many Native Americans and have met,
>>>>> over the years, a few Aboriginals that escaped the oppression. In both
>>>>> peoples they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with
>>>>> their neighbors, as equals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interestingly, the liberals of both nations and Britain tend to >>>>> overlook
>>>>> the rights of the native peoples.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it's a good bit more complicated than that. The law supports
>>>> Aboriginals - over-supports them often, due to Legal Aid - but certainly
>>>> the history of what white Australians did to the Aboriginal is worse >>>> than
>>>> what happened in the US.
>>>
>>>No, it's just the the "superior" species of man throwing its weight >>>around.
>>>
>>>> But many of individual's woes they brought on themselves - Plenty of
>>>> Aboriginals have managed to stay out of the bottle and make good lives >>>> for
>>>> themselves. But, as with the American Indian, too many have decided to
>>>> hide in a bottle and live off the gov't, rather than take the harder >>>> road
>>>> of overcoming history and becoming something more.
>>>
>>>When you destroy a group's collective soul, don't be surprised if it >>>"hides
>>>in a bottle". Tell a man he's worthless enough times and he'll become
>>>worthless. The same is true of the Amerinds and the Abos as groups. >>>>
>>>> Oppression here is more on an individual rather than a gov't basis. Many
>>>> Aboriginals have given up and are alcoholics, violent, thieves, beggars >>>> or
>>>> all four, living in town and causing problems. Due to their culture, >>>> which
>>>> scorns buildings - they much prefer to be outside - those individuals'
>>>> problems are much more on display than any other culture. One has to >>>> work
>>>> very hard to stay open-minded, and many white Australians in this town
>>>> don't seem to be up to that challenge.
>>>>
>>>> jmc
>>>
>>>A few years ago, I had a chance to speak with a lady of standing in a >>>nearby
>>>Dine' (Navajo) tribe and a Moab resident. I asked the one question that >>>had
>>>never been asked of her people: "If the Whites had gone to the tribal
>>>council and asked to live in peace, share the land, and agree to work out
>>>differences without war, what would have happened?"
>>>
>>
>> oh yes, that question has never been asked before budd. the fact that
>> it is discussed in so many history books aside, good job man.
>>
>>>She looked me in the eye and said that most likely, if this had been done
>>>with all the Indian Nations then we would still be living side by side and >>>in peace.
>>>
>>
>> well, thast it then. i mean if she and you said it, it must be. crud,
>> we really messed up this one.
>>
>>>She and I discussed the drinking problem and we agreed it was because the
>>>American Indian is, in many ways, still a second class citizen, still >>>under
>>>government subjugation. And they need to be taught to live without >>>subsidy,
>>>taught they are of worth and the reservations need to be disbanded. >>>
>>
>> just another example of keeping the man down baby.
>>
>>>This lady was one of the thousands of Native American kids in the 50's >>>that
>>>had been torn from their parents arms and fostered among the Whites, an
>>>attempt to force white ways upon the Indians. Since she has learned her
>>>people's traditions, laws and helped restore their original language and
>>>often works as the Dine' / White liaison in the local hospital. >>>
>>
>> do you remember what was the leading "cause" or "movement" behind that
>> action budd? i do. read up on it. you will find it very
>> interesting.
>>
>>>I'm currently helping her youngest son get a Ramcharger 4X4 running again >>>by
>>>teaching him things about auto mechanics no longer taught in school. He >>>was
>>>sold an engine that had been converted point type ignition and he knew
>>>nothing about how they worked. The vehicle had been his dad's before he >>>died
>>>from cancer. It's an honor to be asked help someone's son become a man. >>>
>>
>> very liberal of you.
>>
>
>Boy, do I feel a big chuckle on the way.
>
well...........after reading ahead, looks like you weren't dissapointed.
at the same time, this "keepin the mad down" campaign is actually much easier on the eyes than the martyr one. i just wonder what crusade he will take up next? any bets?